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03 Aug 2020
05:11:31pm
Image Not FoundImage Not FoundIs this what I think it is? If memory serves the perf 12 version of this stamp is really rare... anyways I just pulled this from a little 35$ stack of approx. 10 or 12 Canadian classics that I purchased sight unseen online from a non-collector. =)Image Not Found

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03 Aug 2020
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re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

It's a lovely stamp, especially for the price, but it is not a perf 12.

The standard perfs on this stamp are 11.5 and 11.75 (Unitrade #26iv), and this appears to be an 11.75 x 12

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04 Aug 2020
12:56:02am
re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

Wow ty! Hey thats still pretty good! Ty

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04 Aug 2020
05:18:05am
re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

Do you match peaks or valleys on the perf. gage when checking perf. count?

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04 Aug 2020
03:00:32pm
re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

" .... Do you match peaks or valleys
on the perf. gage when checking perf.
count? ...."


For anything of value or potential value,
both.
But I feel that setting the "dots" in the
valleys is far more accurate. Trying to
exactly center perf tips to the center
of the dots is just not as accurate.
of curse with my eyes these days nothing
is all that accurate.



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04 Aug 2020
05:14:10pm
re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

In my opinion, this is the only style of perf gauge worth using:

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04 Aug 2020
06:33:23pm
re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

Roy, same one I have (when I can find it ). It works like a charm. My trouble is watermarks, especially US single line. I really don't have the patience any more!!

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04 Aug 2020
07:49:55pm
re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

I'm a valleys guy definitely lol
This guage is from a stamp album printed in the 1930s (if memory serves) and I cut it out and put it in a paper currency protector. There's something cool about using actual old-timey stuff to handle my stamp collection, but in this case perhaps a more precise approach is called for =)
P.s. thx for every reply I'm learning a ton and really like this message board so far

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05 Aug 2020
01:59:34pm
re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

".... There's something cool about using actual old-timey
stuff to handle my stamp collection, ...."

Yes, there is a thrill to many people when they handle an
old document, old stamps and especially reading letters
f regular people who are all long gone. It is sometimes
hard to imagine what life must have been like when a five
dollar a week paycheck was considered "doing quite well"
and postane for a first class latter was a penny or
tuppence. Before radios and TVs, autos and cross ocean
air flights or penicillin and open heart surgeries..

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05 Aug 2020
07:28:22pm
re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

I agree with Charlie, I think that it is more accurate to match the valleys to the dots than
the peaks to the lines, this is the gage I use, I like it because it gives me 1/4 readings as well, sometimes 1/2 is not close enough.
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06 Aug 2020
02:50:58pm
re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

What brand of gauge is this?

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06 Aug 2020
04:22:35pm
re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

I'd like to put in a vote for Richard Doporto's US Specialty Precision gauge. I've been using one for maybe 10-15 years. About $16.

It lets you get really precise with fractional perfs, has see-through templates for rotary vs flat plate, etc., etc.

I do not collect US, and it's still extremely useful. (Including that rotary vs flat plate template, which occurs in some Japanese stamps as well.)

He sells it directly on eBay here:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Precision-US-Specialty-Perforation-Multi-gauge-New-2016-Rev-5-2/262583354611?hash=item3d233004f3:g:UXgAAOSwGx1Zv4Pn

and here's a bit more about the history of it on his website. (And you can buy it there as well.)

http://www.slingshotvenus.com/stamps/USSpecialtyPerf5.html

Version 5.2 is the latest version.

(I have no financial interests in it.)

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06 Aug 2020
04:42:49pm
re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

I want one of these comprehensive perf gauges, but $26.90 for shipping? Pass...

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06 Aug 2020
04:48:13pm
re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

Are you looking at the same listing on eBay?

The US shipping is $0.75, and, checking for Canada, it's $2.25. (UK, also $2.25.)

That's much better news!

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06 Aug 2020
05:23:23pm
re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

I went to his website, as I don’t do eBay!

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06 Aug 2020
05:36:28pm
re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

Then I don't know what to tell you. I tried.

Other places carry them (like Mystic, I think). Perhaps you can check with a Canadian stamp supplies dealer and find something acceptable that way.

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06 Aug 2020
05:38:05pm
re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

And, as far as I know, you can still purchase on eBay as a 'guest' and not set up an account. And you should be able to pay with the usual cards, without having to have a PayPal account.

Beyond that, I'm tapped out. No ideas.

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06 Aug 2020
07:44:25pm
re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

Thanks, Philatarium. I’ll try that & see what they charge for postage.

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06 Aug 2020
07:49:40pm
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I need an item like this, so I used the link and ordered it. The total price, including postage, was $17.50 USD. To me, I think that's very fair!

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06 Aug 2020
07:51:11pm
re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

Same with me going to eBay it only cost $2.25 to mail it to Canada! That’s quite a difference from that website…

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06 Aug 2020
09:05:45pm
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I also purchased one on Ebay. I noticed that he had 2 listings for the same item.

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07 Aug 2020
05:56:52am
re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

I have the specialty gauge but use the Linn's/Scott multi-gauge more. Most stamps are odd sizes like 10.8 or 11.3.

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08 Aug 2020
08:11:33am
re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

I'll chime in Big Grin


I seem to have better perf ID luck checking perf tips - MOST of the time.


These are the 3 I use - most frequently the Linn's Multi-gauge:


Image Not Found

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This 3rd one is what I take with me on trips and to shows -
it is flexible plastic, so durable;
it's a handy multi-tool with many features;
it's made like a slide rule, so compact in design;
it's also quite pocket-sized as it's only slightly longer than 6 inches.

I have no recall how or where I acquired it - it's been in my
possession for a long time Happy

Image Not FoundImage Not FoundImage Not Found


Second image shows the reverse of the insert; both pieces are made of the same material.

It's come in quite handy at times!


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08 Aug 2020
08:59:42am
re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

Just a quick note. I notice when individuals show a stamp and perf gauge together, they always show the stamp face up. That may be just to show the ID of the stamp, but I have found that when measuring perfs, it is best to turn the stamp over with gum side up to measure the perf. That way the color of the stamp does not interfere with the color of the gauge.

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08 Aug 2020
09:03:21am
re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

Excellent point, Mel.

I had thought of mentioning that earlier in the thread, but it slipped my mind.

Thanks for posting it!

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08 Aug 2020
11:08:50am
re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

Mel, Randy,

such a simple trick, and one I never thought of. thanks for suggesting it. anything to reduce the chatter is a benefit.

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10 Aug 2020
06:01:14pm
re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

This was such a cool thread to see everyone's perf guage prefs. Thx for all the input and stuff... now we need to have a watermark thread lol

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03 Aug 2020
05:11:31pm

Image Not FoundImage Not FoundIs this what I think it is? If memory serves the perf 12 version of this stamp is really rare... anyways I just pulled this from a little 35$ stack of approx. 10 or 12 Canadian classics that I purchased sight unseen online from a non-collector. =)Image Not Found

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re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

It's a lovely stamp, especially for the price, but it is not a perf 12.

The standard perfs on this stamp are 11.5 and 11.75 (Unitrade #26iv), and this appears to be an 11.75 x 12

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04 Aug 2020
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re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

Wow ty! Hey thats still pretty good! Ty

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04 Aug 2020
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re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

Do you match peaks or valleys on the perf. gage when checking perf. count?

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re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

" .... Do you match peaks or valleys
on the perf. gage when checking perf.
count? ...."


For anything of value or potential value,
both.
But I feel that setting the "dots" in the
valleys is far more accurate. Trying to
exactly center perf tips to the center
of the dots is just not as accurate.
of curse with my eyes these days nothing
is all that accurate.



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04 Aug 2020
05:14:10pm

re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

In my opinion, this is the only style of perf gauge worth using:

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04 Aug 2020
06:33:23pm

re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

Roy, same one I have (when I can find it ). It works like a charm. My trouble is watermarks, especially US single line. I really don't have the patience any more!!

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04 Aug 2020
07:49:55pm

re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

I'm a valleys guy definitely lol
This guage is from a stamp album printed in the 1930s (if memory serves) and I cut it out and put it in a paper currency protector. There's something cool about using actual old-timey stuff to handle my stamp collection, but in this case perhaps a more precise approach is called for =)
P.s. thx for every reply I'm learning a ton and really like this message board so far

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re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

".... There's something cool about using actual old-timey
stuff to handle my stamp collection, ...."

Yes, there is a thrill to many people when they handle an
old document, old stamps and especially reading letters
f regular people who are all long gone. It is sometimes
hard to imagine what life must have been like when a five
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07:28:22pm

re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

I agree with Charlie, I think that it is more accurate to match the valleys to the dots than
the peaks to the lines, this is the gage I use, I like it because it gives me 1/4 readings as well, sometimes 1/2 is not close enough.
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What brand of gauge is this?

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06 Aug 2020
04:22:35pm

re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

I'd like to put in a vote for Richard Doporto's US Specialty Precision gauge. I've been using one for maybe 10-15 years. About $16.

It lets you get really precise with fractional perfs, has see-through templates for rotary vs flat plate, etc., etc.

I do not collect US, and it's still extremely useful. (Including that rotary vs flat plate template, which occurs in some Japanese stamps as well.)

He sells it directly on eBay here:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Precision-US-Specialty-Perforation-Multi-gauge-New-2016-Rev-5-2/262583354611?hash=item3d233004f3:g:UXgAAOSwGx1Zv4Pn

and here's a bit more about the history of it on his website. (And you can buy it there as well.)

http://www.slingshotvenus.com/stamps/USSpecialtyPerf5.html

Version 5.2 is the latest version.

(I have no financial interests in it.)

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re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

I want one of these comprehensive perf gauges, but $26.90 for shipping? Pass...

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06 Aug 2020
04:48:13pm

re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

Are you looking at the same listing on eBay?

The US shipping is $0.75, and, checking for Canada, it's $2.25. (UK, also $2.25.)

That's much better news!

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I went to his website, as I don’t do eBay!

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06 Aug 2020
05:36:28pm

re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

Then I don't know what to tell you. I tried.

Other places carry them (like Mystic, I think). Perhaps you can check with a Canadian stamp supplies dealer and find something acceptable that way.

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06 Aug 2020
05:38:05pm

re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

And, as far as I know, you can still purchase on eBay as a 'guest' and not set up an account. And you should be able to pay with the usual cards, without having to have a PayPal account.

Beyond that, I'm tapped out. No ideas.

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Thanks, Philatarium. I’ll try that & see what they charge for postage.

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I need an item like this, so I used the link and ordered it. The total price, including postage, was $17.50 USD. To me, I think that's very fair!

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Same with me going to eBay it only cost $2.25 to mail it to Canada! That’s quite a difference from that website…

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07 Aug 2020
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re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

I have the specialty gauge but use the Linn's/Scott multi-gauge more. Most stamps are odd sizes like 10.8 or 11.3.

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APS #213005
08 Aug 2020
08:11:33am

re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

I'll chime in Big Grin


I seem to have better perf ID luck checking perf tips - MOST of the time.


These are the 3 I use - most frequently the Linn's Multi-gauge:


Image Not Found

Image Not Found




This 3rd one is what I take with me on trips and to shows -
it is flexible plastic, so durable;
it's a handy multi-tool with many features;
it's made like a slide rule, so compact in design;
it's also quite pocket-sized as it's only slightly longer than 6 inches.

I have no recall how or where I acquired it - it's been in my
possession for a long time Happy

Image Not FoundImage Not FoundImage Not Found


Second image shows the reverse of the insert; both pieces are made of the same material.

It's come in quite handy at times!


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08 Aug 2020
08:59:42am

re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

Just a quick note. I notice when individuals show a stamp and perf gauge together, they always show the stamp face up. That may be just to show the ID of the stamp, but I have found that when measuring perfs, it is best to turn the stamp over with gum side up to measure the perf. That way the color of the stamp does not interfere with the color of the gauge.

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08 Aug 2020
09:03:21am

re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

Excellent point, Mel.

I had thought of mentioning that earlier in the thread, but it slipped my mind.

Thanks for posting it!

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re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

Mel, Randy,

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re: Just pulled this from a 35$ collection

This was such a cool thread to see everyone's perf guage prefs. Thx for all the input and stuff... now we need to have a watermark thread lol

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