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Asia/China : Holes in Stamp?

 

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mbo1142
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28 Jun 2020
09:43:20am
Believe the block is Scott #313 (does not have secret mark). However, have never seen any stamp with the holes as shown. Is this some sort of perfin or some one having fun with a hole punch?

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jmh67

28 Jun 2020
10:52:38am
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Difficult to say anything about the holes on this off-paper block of four, but here are my ideas, for what they may be worth.

What is the distance between the holes? Does it fit any known multi-hole punch? Perhaps the stamps were stuck on a document that was filed somewhere, and when it was not needed any more and discarded, someone cut out the stamps and soaked them off. But then, the holes might (but don't have to) show some wear.

In some countries it was the custom that stamps on certain forms (telegrams, parcel receipts) were cancelled by punching holes. Not sure whether China was among them, and if they were, all stamps should have holes.

Or as you wrote, someone may just have had fun ...

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29 Jun 2020
09:34:14am
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jmh.

Thanks for your response. I measured the holes as you suggested and as far as I can determine they do not line up with any multi hole punch that I know of. The are however the same size as my hole punch and there fore I believe someone was just having fun.

Oh well what a waste of a perfectly good block.Crying

Mel

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29 Jun 2020
10:23:51am
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PROOFS of IJPO were hole punched ...Image Not Found

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29 Jun 2020
11:45:12am
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phos45,

Interesting. My block is not a proof. Also hard to tell if my holes and the example you show are the same size. Could the holes have been punched by the authorities for some reason or another? They could have been punched to prevent re-use, but if that is the case it seems that all the stamps would have been punched.

Any way a mystery. Thanks for all the responses.

Mel

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Linus
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29 Jun 2020
05:36:41pm
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Mel,

It is very difficult to determine the exact reason these holes were punched into your nice block of China stamps. If they were still on the original cover, document, or piece, you might have a few additional clues. We have discussed this topic before on this forum, and I posted this response as to why random holes can appear in revenue stamps. See link below...

https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=18806#139992


When you see the entire document, you can understand how a company had a two-hole method of filing documents causing holes to be punched in the stamps.

Linus

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29 Jun 2020
06:36:48pm

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If the top stamps are folded over do the holes line up as it looks like a crease along the perforations between top and bottom stamps.

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30 Jun 2020
02:42:24am

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Here is Australia we have holes in some of the earlier issues these are Telegraph punctures Indicating the stamp was used to pay to send a telegram/telegraph.
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30 Jun 2020
06:34:14pm
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The holes do not line up when folded over. They are off set and the bottom one is lower.

I am going on the assumption (hate that word), that someone was having fun with a hole punch. Will still do some more research.

Again thanks for all the help.

Mel

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mbo1142

I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.
28 Jun 2020
09:43:20am

Believe the block is Scott #313 (does not have secret mark). However, have never seen any stamp with the holes as shown. Is this some sort of perfin or some one having fun with a hole punch?

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jmh67

28 Jun 2020
10:52:38am

re: Holes in Stamp?

Difficult to say anything about the holes on this off-paper block of four, but here are my ideas, for what they may be worth.

What is the distance between the holes? Does it fit any known multi-hole punch? Perhaps the stamps were stuck on a document that was filed somewhere, and when it was not needed any more and discarded, someone cut out the stamps and soaked them off. But then, the holes might (but don't have to) show some wear.

In some countries it was the custom that stamps on certain forms (telegrams, parcel receipts) were cancelled by punching holes. Not sure whether China was among them, and if they were, all stamps should have holes.

Or as you wrote, someone may just have had fun ...

-jmh

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29 Jun 2020
09:34:14am

re: Holes in Stamp?

jmh.

Thanks for your response. I measured the holes as you suggested and as far as I can determine they do not line up with any multi hole punch that I know of. The are however the same size as my hole punch and there fore I believe someone was just having fun.

Oh well what a waste of a perfectly good block.Crying

Mel

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phos45

29 Jun 2020
10:23:51am

re: Holes in Stamp?

PROOFS of IJPO were hole punched ...Image Not Found

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29 Jun 2020
11:45:12am

re: Holes in Stamp?

phos45,

Interesting. My block is not a proof. Also hard to tell if my holes and the example you show are the same size. Could the holes have been punched by the authorities for some reason or another? They could have been punched to prevent re-use, but if that is the case it seems that all the stamps would have been punched.

Any way a mystery. Thanks for all the responses.

Mel

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Linus

29 Jun 2020
05:36:41pm

re: Holes in Stamp?

Mel,

It is very difficult to determine the exact reason these holes were punched into your nice block of China stamps. If they were still on the original cover, document, or piece, you might have a few additional clues. We have discussed this topic before on this forum, and I posted this response as to why random holes can appear in revenue stamps. See link below...

https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=18806#139992


When you see the entire document, you can understand how a company had a two-hole method of filing documents causing holes to be punched in the stamps.

Linus

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sheepshanks

29 Jun 2020
06:36:48pm

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If the top stamps are folded over do the holes line up as it looks like a crease along the perforations between top and bottom stamps.

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30 Jun 2020
02:42:24am

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re: Holes in Stamp?

Here is Australia we have holes in some of the earlier issues these are Telegraph punctures Indicating the stamp was used to pay to send a telegram/telegraph.
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Brian

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mbo1142

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30 Jun 2020
06:34:14pm

re: Holes in Stamp?

The holes do not line up when folded over. They are off set and the bottom one is lower.

I am going on the assumption (hate that word), that someone was having fun with a hole punch. Will still do some more research.

Again thanks for all the help.

Mel

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