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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Transactions With Other Collectors

 

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Snick1946
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09 Feb 2020
11:35:39am
I am in a situation with a resident in Canada who noted a post I'd made on another forum that I had interest in Canada material. He has contacted me off the board offering to sell a large quantity of stamps direct. I did express interest in something like this but this looks like more than I bargained for. I'd envisioned just swapping or dealing for small quantities. He also wants payment using Moneygram or Bank Transfer. My instincts are telling me to extract myself from this situation.

He's now sent me an email with hundreds of catalog numbers and prices. He's a well established poster on this other forum but this all just seems a little strange. Any comments?
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jbaxter5256
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09 Feb 2020
11:53:26am
re: Transactions With Other Collectors

I would suggest starting with a small number of items from those in which you are interested, something that is interesting but which would not be too painful if the transaction failed to be satisfactory in any way.

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09 Feb 2020
11:54:40am
re: Transactions With Other Collectors

I'd pass on anything he has to offer. Is his offerings just from a note on swapping some (not a lot) of stamps?

That would be just too much for me. Using alternate forms of simple payment is too much as well. Is he from The US or Canada, member of APS? If I were to take him up, I'd do some googling first.

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09 Feb 2020
12:15:58pm
re: Transactions With Other Collectors

Thanks for the input. As of now I do not even have his name. He offered to swap addresses and phone numbers. I think you can understand my reluctance to do so at this juncture.

The Moneygram and wire transfer thing just set off bells with me. He is probably perfectly ok but is just coming across as a tad obsessive. Why wouldn't he take Paypal? He's also talking about customs fees. I'd be way ahead walking away and buying what I want from dealers.

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09 Feb 2020
12:20:28pm
re: Transactions With Other Collectors

A note from the other side. I got involved in buying a hugely expensive lot from a seller I had dealt with before. It was probably the best move I ever made, I got some wonderful stuff that I probably would have never had another chance for. But, it's sort of like what people say about gambling - don't gamble if you can't afford to lose and always use money that is not needed somewhere else. How many people have lost a house or car in a poker game or to gambling machines? Also make sure you trust the person and try to arrange it so you pay after the goods are delivered or, if this is not possible, at least get a good scan of the material. Maybe half the money up front and the rest on delivery. Just be careful, maybe I was just lucky! Maybe get the material in a few lots paying for each lot as you get it.

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d1stamper
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09 Feb 2020
02:03:16pm
re: Transactions With Other Collectors

When they ask for other methods of payment, you are asking for trouble. I would not touch this even if I could afford to lose money.

Doug

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Snick1946
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09 Feb 2020
04:00:34pm
re: Transactions With Other Collectors

Doug you summarized my issues. He told me:

'I can take a U.S. money gram from post office, a travelers check, or an e transfer. '

This sounds like what you'd hear from a phone scammer. Way too much drama for me. I emailed him back an just told him I was passing on his proposal and wished him luck.I think he's probably OK, but he just seem a bit obsessed,or something.

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michael78651

09 Feb 2020
04:17:17pm
re: Transactions With Other Collectors

This is a link to an advisory that we have on this site at the top of the Auction page:

https://stamporama.com/forms/display_form.php?id=auc-advise

I thought it appropriate as a reminder.

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dani20
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10 Feb 2020
08:45:53am
re: Transactions With Other Collectors

Wouldn't a review of his credentials ( professional affiliations, name check, etc.) be in order here? The caution expressed by others seems prudent.
Dan C.

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Brechinite

10 Feb 2020
09:08:07am

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re: Transactions With Other Collectors

Unfortunately there are quite a few "pushy" people around, both sellers and buyers.

My solution is to ignore them. If they cannot conduct business in a calm and reasonable manner then they do not receive my attention.

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Snick1946

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09 Feb 2020
11:35:39am

I am in a situation with a resident in Canada who noted a post I'd made on another forum that I had interest in Canada material. He has contacted me off the board offering to sell a large quantity of stamps direct. I did express interest in something like this but this looks like more than I bargained for. I'd envisioned just swapping or dealing for small quantities. He also wants payment using Moneygram or Bank Transfer. My instincts are telling me to extract myself from this situation.

He's now sent me an email with hundreds of catalog numbers and prices. He's a well established poster on this other forum but this all just seems a little strange. Any comments?

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jbaxter5256

09 Feb 2020
11:53:26am

re: Transactions With Other Collectors

I would suggest starting with a small number of items from those in which you are interested, something that is interesting but which would not be too painful if the transaction failed to be satisfactory in any way.

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BrightonPete

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09 Feb 2020
11:54:40am

re: Transactions With Other Collectors

I'd pass on anything he has to offer. Is his offerings just from a note on swapping some (not a lot) of stamps?

That would be just too much for me. Using alternate forms of simple payment is too much as well. Is he from The US or Canada, member of APS? If I were to take him up, I'd do some googling first.

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Snick1946

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09 Feb 2020
12:15:58pm

re: Transactions With Other Collectors

Thanks for the input. As of now I do not even have his name. He offered to swap addresses and phone numbers. I think you can understand my reluctance to do so at this juncture.

The Moneygram and wire transfer thing just set off bells with me. He is probably perfectly ok but is just coming across as a tad obsessive. Why wouldn't he take Paypal? He's also talking about customs fees. I'd be way ahead walking away and buying what I want from dealers.

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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
09 Feb 2020
12:20:28pm

re: Transactions With Other Collectors

A note from the other side. I got involved in buying a hugely expensive lot from a seller I had dealt with before. It was probably the best move I ever made, I got some wonderful stuff that I probably would have never had another chance for. But, it's sort of like what people say about gambling - don't gamble if you can't afford to lose and always use money that is not needed somewhere else. How many people have lost a house or car in a poker game or to gambling machines? Also make sure you trust the person and try to arrange it so you pay after the goods are delivered or, if this is not possible, at least get a good scan of the material. Maybe half the money up front and the rest on delivery. Just be careful, maybe I was just lucky! Maybe get the material in a few lots paying for each lot as you get it.

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d1stamper

09 Feb 2020
02:03:16pm

re: Transactions With Other Collectors

When they ask for other methods of payment, you are asking for trouble. I would not touch this even if I could afford to lose money.

Doug

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Snick1946

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09 Feb 2020
04:00:34pm

re: Transactions With Other Collectors

Doug you summarized my issues. He told me:

'I can take a U.S. money gram from post office, a travelers check, or an e transfer. '

This sounds like what you'd hear from a phone scammer. Way too much drama for me. I emailed him back an just told him I was passing on his proposal and wished him luck.I think he's probably OK, but he just seem a bit obsessed,or something.

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michael78651

09 Feb 2020
04:17:17pm

re: Transactions With Other Collectors

This is a link to an advisory that we have on this site at the top of the Auction page:

https://stamporama.com/forms/display_form.php?id=auc-advise

I thought it appropriate as a reminder.

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dani20

10 Feb 2020
08:45:53am

re: Transactions With Other Collectors

Wouldn't a review of his credentials ( professional affiliations, name check, etc.) be in order here? The caution expressed by others seems prudent.
Dan C.

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Brechinite

10 Feb 2020
09:08:07am

Auctions - Approvals

re: Transactions With Other Collectors

Unfortunately there are quite a few "pushy" people around, both sellers and buyers.

My solution is to ignore them. If they cannot conduct business in a calm and reasonable manner then they do not receive my attention.

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