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RiTz21
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01 Feb 2020
11:13:04pm
Hello Stamp Experts!

My daughter Kira asked me for help to identify a 2007 Stamp.

According to her 2017 Unitrade Catalog on page 432, it appears to be #2238

Yet (see fuzzy image) the one she showed me is 'flat' at the top side... (sorry for not knowing the proper word for when there are no 'teeth' on one side!)

So is this stamp still #2238?
Thanks for clearing this up for her!

R

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02 Feb 2020
07:23:42am
re: Stamp Identification!

I can't tell you the Unitrade number,

but this appears to be a booklet stamp due to the one straight edge

on one side while the rest are perforated.

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02 Feb 2020
08:51:56am
re: Stamp Identification!

I am afraid it is still a conundrum.

To my knowledge, this stamp was never issued in a booklet, and Unitrade makes no mention of one.

The souvenir sheet that it appears in is perforated all around the stamp.

The sheet of 50 stamps does not have any straight edges (btw, that's the term you are looking for). This is still a current issue low value, you can see the sheet on the Canada Post site.

The only other place it could have come from is an Uncut Press Sheet. I don't know if the panes in the sheet were perforated all around. I probably have one around here somewhere (I bought a large collection of them last week, will have to go digging through the rolls.)

If that's not the case, the only other answer I can come up with is that it was clipped with scissors (although it appears a very straight cut).

Roy

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02 Feb 2020
09:15:13am

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Always possible that the envelope it was on was opened using a guillotine type opener.

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02 Feb 2020
12:20:52pm
re: Stamp Identification!

ok I took a better picture, and I placed that straight edge stamp besides the other one she has (and I tried to align them to see if it was cut from Scissors - but I don't think it was...)

Also, I am noticing that it is "paler" than the other one she has in her album!

Does this helps find out which number this stamp is?!

THANKS!!
R

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02 Feb 2020
04:00:23pm
re: Stamp Identification!

From your most recent image post, it appears that it may very well have been cut with either scissors or some type of guillotine cutter.

The stamp is certainly not as wide as the one above it and the perfs at the bottom of the stamp image also appear as if they have been cut with some type of straight-edge cutting device.


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02 Feb 2020
07:04:32pm
re: Stamp Identification!

Hi R

a non-perforated area of a stamp is known as being imperforate, in booklets (Australia anyway), the perforation gauge is different, to easily count the perfs, you have 16 tips on the top of the stamp, there is also 16 tips on the imperforated stamp (booklet stamp most likely will not have the same type of gauge).

It is most likely defaced by a cutting tool.

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02 Feb 2020
10:49:10pm
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Forgive me, I am a novice at this, but it appears to me that the country name “Canada” is no closer to the straight edge than to the perforated edge. If it had been cut with scissors or some other device, even if just the outstanding tips of the perfs had been perfectly cut, doesn’t it look like the country name is too far from that straight edge?

It also looks like there is some sort of “shadowing” along that right edge. That “shadowing” is well within the perfs on the perforated version.

It does in fact look like a booklet stamp, but I do understand that it was mentioned above that there was no booklet version of this stamp. It’s an enigma.

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02 Feb 2020
10:56:24pm
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The variation in the position of the lettering is a question of the centering of the design on a stamp that has an overall black background. For verification, take a look at the margins of the top of each stamp shown.

Therefore, measurements relative to the edge of the stamp are more to do with centering -- we would not consider such position important if the background were unprinted.

Also, the stamp has been in production for 13 years. Inevitably, there have been differences in print runs.

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03 Feb 2020
02:43:40am
re: Stamp Identification!

Ok I guess this is just a badly 'cut' stamp then!
I had not noticed the bottom side which does indeed seems to be cut...

I'll trash it, since my daughter already has it Happy

THANKS for the explanation/clarification/expertise!!!!!!

R

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01 Feb 2020
11:13:04pm

Hello Stamp Experts!

My daughter Kira asked me for help to identify a 2007 Stamp.

According to her 2017 Unitrade Catalog on page 432, it appears to be #2238

Yet (see fuzzy image) the one she showed me is 'flat' at the top side... (sorry for not knowing the proper word for when there are no 'teeth' on one side!)

So is this stamp still #2238?
Thanks for clearing this up for her!

R

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02 Feb 2020
07:23:42am

re: Stamp Identification!

I can't tell you the Unitrade number,

but this appears to be a booklet stamp due to the one straight edge

on one side while the rest are perforated.

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02 Feb 2020
08:51:56am

re: Stamp Identification!

I am afraid it is still a conundrum.

To my knowledge, this stamp was never issued in a booklet, and Unitrade makes no mention of one.

The souvenir sheet that it appears in is perforated all around the stamp.

The sheet of 50 stamps does not have any straight edges (btw, that's the term you are looking for). This is still a current issue low value, you can see the sheet on the Canada Post site.

The only other place it could have come from is an Uncut Press Sheet. I don't know if the panes in the sheet were perforated all around. I probably have one around here somewhere (I bought a large collection of them last week, will have to go digging through the rolls.)

If that's not the case, the only other answer I can come up with is that it was clipped with scissors (although it appears a very straight cut).

Roy

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02 Feb 2020
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Always possible that the envelope it was on was opened using a guillotine type opener.

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02 Feb 2020
12:20:52pm

re: Stamp Identification!

ok I took a better picture, and I placed that straight edge stamp besides the other one she has (and I tried to align them to see if it was cut from Scissors - but I don't think it was...)

Also, I am noticing that it is "paler" than the other one she has in her album!

Does this helps find out which number this stamp is?!

THANKS!!
R

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02 Feb 2020
04:00:23pm

re: Stamp Identification!

From your most recent image post, it appears that it may very well have been cut with either scissors or some type of guillotine cutter.

The stamp is certainly not as wide as the one above it and the perfs at the bottom of the stamp image also appear as if they have been cut with some type of straight-edge cutting device.


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02 Feb 2020
07:04:32pm

re: Stamp Identification!

Hi R

a non-perforated area of a stamp is known as being imperforate, in booklets (Australia anyway), the perforation gauge is different, to easily count the perfs, you have 16 tips on the top of the stamp, there is also 16 tips on the imperforated stamp (booklet stamp most likely will not have the same type of gauge).

It is most likely defaced by a cutting tool.

Rob


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02 Feb 2020
10:49:10pm

re: Stamp Identification!

Forgive me, I am a novice at this, but it appears to me that the country name “Canada” is no closer to the straight edge than to the perforated edge. If it had been cut with scissors or some other device, even if just the outstanding tips of the perfs had been perfectly cut, doesn’t it look like the country name is too far from that straight edge?

It also looks like there is some sort of “shadowing” along that right edge. That “shadowing” is well within the perfs on the perforated version.

It does in fact look like a booklet stamp, but I do understand that it was mentioned above that there was no booklet version of this stamp. It’s an enigma.

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02 Feb 2020
10:56:24pm

re: Stamp Identification!

The variation in the position of the lettering is a question of the centering of the design on a stamp that has an overall black background. For verification, take a look at the margins of the top of each stamp shown.

Therefore, measurements relative to the edge of the stamp are more to do with centering -- we would not consider such position important if the background were unprinted.

Also, the stamp has been in production for 13 years. Inevitably, there have been differences in print runs.

Roy

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03 Feb 2020
02:43:40am

re: Stamp Identification!

Ok I guess this is just a badly 'cut' stamp then!
I had not noticed the bottom side which does indeed seems to be cut...

I'll trash it, since my daughter already has it Happy

THANKS for the explanation/clarification/expertise!!!!!!

R

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