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General Philatelic/Supplies, Literature & Software : Corners.... Ahhhhh!!!!

 

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JohnnyRockets
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26 Jan 2020
07:47:19pm
Hi all,

Okay, here's the scenario and some questions.

I want to put stamps in mounts (newish mounts) and put them in my albums.


1) How do you recommend moistening the back of the mount?

2) What about those corners that seem to want to not quite stick?

3) What do you do if the stamp starts coming off the page like a year later? Is there an aftermarket adhesive?


I know, basic questions... unless you're still new to the hobby! Winking


Thanks!


JR
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26 Jan 2020
07:57:56pm
re: Corners.... Ahhhhh!!!!

Responses in the order you asked -


1) I simply use the tip of my tongue on the TOP half of the mount (assuming you are using the split-back style of mount available from Sott, Showgard, Hawid, etc.)
Some people prefer to use a moist Q-tip. I am not one.


2) Don't worry about 'the corners'


3) There is an aftermarket adhesive made specifically for mounts called Hawid Mount Adhesive; I have never had a need to use it, as I have never had a mount dislodge from a page unless I wanted it to (knock on wood here). I have mounts in albums that have been there for years and haven't lost one yet.


I would think that if mounts dislodge within a year, you should find a better quality mount.



Hope this helps!


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JohnnyRockets
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26 Jan 2020
08:03:56pm
re: Corners.... Ahhhhh!!!!

Hi Musicman,

I like it!

"don't worry about the corners"... good idea... I won't! Happy


Coming off after a year was just arbitrary. I'm betting that the mounts are more "stuck" on there than I realize. I won't worry about it... Happy


Thanks!


JR

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26 Jan 2020
09:48:19pm
re: Corners.... Ahhhhh!!!!

Even when I was a kid, I always used the stamp mounts. Those mounts still stick like the day I used my tongue to slightly moisten them. I just swallow any excess then lightly lick. They sell a sponge, but with my tongue, I get a better idea of just how much is being used. Works like a charm with no issues with them dating back to 1972!

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michael78651

26 Jan 2020
11:23:49pm
re: Corners.... Ahhhhh!!!!

When you moisten the mount, be sure to apply the moisture (less is best) from the inside out for both sides of the mount. This will help prevent the moisture from getting inside the mount at the corners. Also, do not moisten the entire mount. If you do so with a split back mount in particualr, the moisture will seep inside the mount.

I find this quite often with stamps that are attached to album pages with mounts. You can easily see the damaged gum on unused and mint stamps. It's also a waste of money to buy the mounts, since stamp protection is what the mounts are bought for.

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27 Jan 2020
12:50:25am
re: Corners.... Ahhhhh!!!!

From someone who spends a lot of time breaking down stamps collections, I would suggest using a q-tip or small artist's brush as the means to apply moisture to the back of the mount. I have come across too many collections where the person applying saliva applied way too much and in the wrong places. Hard to tell where that saliva is going since you can't see what you are actually doing.

With regular hinges, often times the stamp itself receives some of the saliva. This results in mint stamps being attached to the album page with their own glue. Many times this happens at the very top of the stamp.

With the split-back stamp mounts, this can result in some of the saliva making it down to the split in the back of the stamp mount resulting in a stamp that is stuck to the inside of the mount. I come across this situation more often than you would think possible.

With used stamps this would not be an issue since stuck down stamps can be soaked from whatever they are stuck to. Since they have no gum to start with, there is no gum damage to worry about. Might be a good reason to only collect used stamps.

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smauggie
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27 Jan 2020
04:17:00am
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I use self-adhesive clear safe plastic corners.

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27 Jan 2020
07:45:38am
re: Corners.... Ahhhhh!!!!

I use a q-tip dabbed on a wet sponge and apply moisture on top center. I get very consistent results. I have also been experimenting with a glue stick. If done correctly you can often remove the mount without damaging the page. For large mounts I would apply in more than one spot. I am sure the paper used is a variable too.

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27 Jan 2020
08:28:25am
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I use Showguard or Scott black mounts & a glue pen applied sparingly to the top of the mount. If you use a glue pen practice first to get use to flow of the glue.

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27 Jan 2020
08:40:27am
re: Corners.... Ahhhhh!!!!

I use ordinary pre-folded stamp hinges to mount the mounts, with the tiniest bit of moisture possible applied to the short part of the hinge so that the hinge sticks to a small spot on the top half of the mount (and well above the split-line in the case of a split-backed mount), and, again, the tiniest bit of moisture (from my tongue) applied to the longer (back) part of the hinge to stick to the album page. I usually leave the mount (with the stamp inside it) flipped upside down on the album page for a moment until the moisture is dry.

Occasionally, after the passage of time, a hinge will detach from the album page, but it can easily be re-mounted, usually by moistening the same hinge, or by removing it from the mount and applying a new one.

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27 Jan 2020
10:52:30am
re: Corners.... Ahhhhh!!!!

Hi all,

Thanks a lot for all of your great advice, and it sounds like there are some good techniques in use here.

Not sure where I'll land, but I'm definitely going to try out all "moistening options". The Q-Tip being one that I can try quickly tonight, as we have those on hand.

I have to confess to being the "too much licking guy" on a couple of stamps and it "damaged" them, so don't want to do that in the future as mentioned.


Thanks again for all of the responses!


JR

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JohnnyRockets

26 Jan 2020
07:47:19pm

Hi all,

Okay, here's the scenario and some questions.

I want to put stamps in mounts (newish mounts) and put them in my albums.


1) How do you recommend moistening the back of the mount?

2) What about those corners that seem to want to not quite stick?

3) What do you do if the stamp starts coming off the page like a year later? Is there an aftermarket adhesive?


I know, basic questions... unless you're still new to the hobby! Winking


Thanks!


JR

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musicman

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26 Jan 2020
07:57:56pm

re: Corners.... Ahhhhh!!!!

Responses in the order you asked -


1) I simply use the tip of my tongue on the TOP half of the mount (assuming you are using the split-back style of mount available from Sott, Showgard, Hawid, etc.)
Some people prefer to use a moist Q-tip. I am not one.


2) Don't worry about 'the corners'


3) There is an aftermarket adhesive made specifically for mounts called Hawid Mount Adhesive; I have never had a need to use it, as I have never had a mount dislodge from a page unless I wanted it to (knock on wood here). I have mounts in albums that have been there for years and haven't lost one yet.


I would think that if mounts dislodge within a year, you should find a better quality mount.



Hope this helps!


Happy

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26 Jan 2020
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re: Corners.... Ahhhhh!!!!

Hi Musicman,

I like it!

"don't worry about the corners"... good idea... I won't! Happy


Coming off after a year was just arbitrary. I'm betting that the mounts are more "stuck" on there than I realize. I won't worry about it... Happy


Thanks!


JR

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26 Jan 2020
09:48:19pm

re: Corners.... Ahhhhh!!!!

Even when I was a kid, I always used the stamp mounts. Those mounts still stick like the day I used my tongue to slightly moisten them. I just swallow any excess then lightly lick. They sell a sponge, but with my tongue, I get a better idea of just how much is being used. Works like a charm with no issues with them dating back to 1972!

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michael78651

26 Jan 2020
11:23:49pm

re: Corners.... Ahhhhh!!!!

When you moisten the mount, be sure to apply the moisture (less is best) from the inside out for both sides of the mount. This will help prevent the moisture from getting inside the mount at the corners. Also, do not moisten the entire mount. If you do so with a split back mount in particualr, the moisture will seep inside the mount.

I find this quite often with stamps that are attached to album pages with mounts. You can easily see the damaged gum on unused and mint stamps. It's also a waste of money to buy the mounts, since stamp protection is what the mounts are bought for.

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okstamps

27 Jan 2020
12:50:25am

re: Corners.... Ahhhhh!!!!

From someone who spends a lot of time breaking down stamps collections, I would suggest using a q-tip or small artist's brush as the means to apply moisture to the back of the mount. I have come across too many collections where the person applying saliva applied way too much and in the wrong places. Hard to tell where that saliva is going since you can't see what you are actually doing.

With regular hinges, often times the stamp itself receives some of the saliva. This results in mint stamps being attached to the album page with their own glue. Many times this happens at the very top of the stamp.

With the split-back stamp mounts, this can result in some of the saliva making it down to the split in the back of the stamp mount resulting in a stamp that is stuck to the inside of the mount. I come across this situation more often than you would think possible.

With used stamps this would not be an issue since stuck down stamps can be soaked from whatever they are stuck to. Since they have no gum to start with, there is no gum damage to worry about. Might be a good reason to only collect used stamps.

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27 Jan 2020
04:17:00am

re: Corners.... Ahhhhh!!!!

I use self-adhesive clear safe plastic corners.

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Al
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27 Jan 2020
07:45:38am

re: Corners.... Ahhhhh!!!!

I use a q-tip dabbed on a wet sponge and apply moisture on top center. I get very consistent results. I have also been experimenting with a glue stick. If done correctly you can often remove the mount without damaging the page. For large mounts I would apply in more than one spot. I am sure the paper used is a variable too.

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vinman

27 Jan 2020
08:28:25am

re: Corners.... Ahhhhh!!!!

I use Showguard or Scott black mounts & a glue pen applied sparingly to the top of the mount. If you use a glue pen practice first to get use to flow of the glue.

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jthurd

27 Jan 2020
08:40:27am

re: Corners.... Ahhhhh!!!!

I use ordinary pre-folded stamp hinges to mount the mounts, with the tiniest bit of moisture possible applied to the short part of the hinge so that the hinge sticks to a small spot on the top half of the mount (and well above the split-line in the case of a split-backed mount), and, again, the tiniest bit of moisture (from my tongue) applied to the longer (back) part of the hinge to stick to the album page. I usually leave the mount (with the stamp inside it) flipped upside down on the album page for a moment until the moisture is dry.

Occasionally, after the passage of time, a hinge will detach from the album page, but it can easily be re-mounted, usually by moistening the same hinge, or by removing it from the mount and applying a new one.

JTH

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27 Jan 2020
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re: Corners.... Ahhhhh!!!!

Hi all,

Thanks a lot for all of your great advice, and it sounds like there are some good techniques in use here.

Not sure where I'll land, but I'm definitely going to try out all "moistening options". The Q-Tip being one that I can try quickly tonight, as we have those on hand.

I have to confess to being the "too much licking guy" on a couple of stamps and it "damaged" them, so don't want to do that in the future as mentioned.


Thanks again for all of the responses!


JR

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