Stamporama Discussions: new perforations with small oval gaps in them?

General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : new perforations with small oval gaps in them?

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Harvey

This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
25 Jan 2020
01:04:34pm

What's with these new perforations that I'm seeing now with little oval cut out gaps - a lot of GB stamps seem to have them. What kind of purpose are they supposed to serve? Just curious!

"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that. George Carlin"

michael78651

25 Jan 2020
01:07:17pm

re: new perforations with small oval gaps in them?

Such perforations have been used for some time. They are counterfeit deterrents.

musicman

APS #213005
25 Jan 2020
02:16:24pm

re: new perforations with small oval gaps in them?

These are called 'syncopated perfs'.

londonbus1

25 Jan 2020
02:23:07pm

re: new perforations with small oval gaps in them?

Or if you live in the UK, or collect by Gibbons, they are called Elliptical Perforations. (Ellipses)

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musicman

APS #213005
25 Jan 2020
02:34:02pm

re: new perforations with small oval gaps in them?

Thanks for that, Michael -

didn't mean to overlook those of you 'across the pond'!

michael78651

25 Jan 2020
07:18:02pm

re: new perforations with small oval gaps in them?

Synchopated perfs are a little different than the elongated perfs.

Synchopated have a skip in perforations between the regular perfs
(like this: .... ___ ....), or a skip at each corner of the stamp. The Netherlands used these in the 1920s and 1930s.

cdj1122

Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
26 Jan 2020
01:12:34am

re: new perforations with small oval gaps in them?

"Elliptical Perforations"

And believe it or not, there are five or six tiny shape differences by
which, when examining pairs or blocks can identify a Machin's printer.

".... You may think you understood what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you think you heard is not what I thought I meant. .... "

DaveSheridan

26 Jan 2020
02:39:02am

re: new perforations with small oval gaps in them?

Portugal have got it down to a fine art

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But Hong Kong SAR take the prize in my view, with elliptical perfs AND perfs around the value. I doubt that these will ever be forged!

www.b1d.com/store/global-philately

angore

Al
Collector, Moderator
26 Jan 2020
06:32:00am

re: new perforations with small oval gaps in them?

The use of certain words is all part of learning the catalog or album makers terms.

"Stamp Collecting is a many splendored thing"

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Harvey

This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
25 Jan 2020
01:04:34pm

What's with these new perforations that I'm seeing now with little oval cut out gaps - a lot of GB stamps seem to have them. What kind of purpose are they supposed to serve? Just curious!

"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that. George Carlin"

michael78651
25 Jan 2020
01:07:17pm

re: new perforations with small oval gaps in them?

Such perforations have been used for some time. They are counterfeit deterrents.

musicman

APS #213005
25 Jan 2020
02:16:24pm

re: new perforations with small oval gaps in them?

These are called 'syncopated perfs'.

londonbus1

25 Jan 2020
02:23:07pm

re: new perforations with small oval gaps in them?

Or if you live in the UK, or collect by Gibbons, they are called Elliptical Perforations. (Ellipses)

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musicman

APS #213005
25 Jan 2020
02:34:02pm

re: new perforations with small oval gaps in them?

Thanks for that, Michael -

didn't mean to overlook those of you 'across the pond'!

michael78651
25 Jan 2020
07:18:02pm

re: new perforations with small oval gaps in them?

cdj1122

Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
26 Jan 2020
01:12:34am

re: new perforations with small oval gaps in them?

"Elliptical Perforations"

And believe it or not, there are five or six tiny shape differences by
which, when examining pairs or blocks can identify a Machin's printer.

".... You may think you understood what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you think you heard is not what I thought I meant. .... "

DaveSheridan

26 Jan 2020
02:39:02am

re: new perforations with small oval gaps in them?

Portugal have got it down to a fine art

Image Not Found

But Hong Kong SAR take the prize in my view, with elliptical perfs AND perfs around the value. I doubt that these will ever be forged!

www.b1d.com/store/gl ...

angore

Al
Collector, Moderator
26 Jan 2020
06:32:00am

re: new perforations with small oval gaps in them?

The use of certain words is all part of learning the catalog or album makers terms.

"Stamp Collecting is a many splendored thing"