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United States/Stamps : Bank Note Issues

 

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mestephil
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23 Jan 2020
11:21:40pm
This past weekend I finally tackled sorting through the bank not issues. It don't have a ton of them and they are all used and really of no great value, but I have enough to take my sweet time to try to learn how to identify them.

Between secret marks and watermarks it was enough to drive me to drink. I just could not easily determine if the watermarks were there. As for secret marks, many were easy to follow (Thanks to Stampsmarter and Swedishtiger sites for their aids). I had it easier as I had none with grills, so that narrowed the sorting, but the green 3 cent Washingtons were challenging on the secret mark, at least to me.

This one looks clear to me:

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This one looks not to have it to me:

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Sometimes I felt like I might as well wet my finger and see which way the wind is blowing. The other one I had great difficulty with was determining if a 2 cent Washington was a type iV, Scott 279B. I was finding some subjects would had part of the characteristics, and some other parts of the characteristics. I found Swedish Tiger was helpful there, but it still was not simple.

I don't know if others have similar difficulties in deciding, but I cringe thinking of doing the Washington/Franklins soon.

Ken

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24 Jan 2020
08:03:35pm
re: Bank Note Issues

I collect Washington/Franklins, but not with any vigour. I rely, perhaps foolishly, on dealers’ descriptions. As I’ve mentioned before, Beverly Fox, co-owner of Weeda Stamps, told me that she simply refuses to deal with Washington/Franklins. Perhaps that’s why Weeda concentrates on Canada. But that leaves the question of Canada’s difficult-to-ID KGV Admiral stamps. I quit collecting those because I couldn’t tell one variety from another, especially the colour varieties.

Bob

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dani20
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25 Jan 2020
07:59:13am
re: Bank Note Issues

See if this helps any.
Dan C.


http://www.uspcs.org/stamps-covers/uspod-issued-adhesives/the-1851-1860-issue/1851-1c-issue/



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Dialysis, damned if you do...dead if you don't

25 Jan 2020
10:13:04am
re: Bank Note Issues

Please remove the 1847usa link above, it was a pirated website which has stolen the content from Bob Allen original site. Bob gave Stamp Smarter exclusive rights to republish his content.
http://stampsmarter.com/1847usa/1847Home.html
Don

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25 Jan 2020
10:26:21am
re: Bank Note Issues

"Please remove the 1847usa link above"




That address doesn't work anyway.

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25 Jan 2020
11:35:05am
re: Bank Note Issues

Sorry all-my bad-I should have proofed the reference before making it. Thanks for the corrections.
Dan C.

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25 Jan 2020
02:34:53pm
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No worries, Dan

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25 Jan 2020
02:40:53pm
re: Bank Note Issues

My original post was referring to the 1870-1890s banknote issues (my bad for not saying that) while the USPCS link above is for the 1851 series. But that be as it may, the USPCS link is a great reference.

For the 1870-1890s link it would be:

https://www.uspcs.org/stamps-covers/uspod-issued-adhesives/the-1870-93-issues/

Along with Stampsmarter and Swedish Tiger, I love the USPCS resources.

So much to learn, so little time......


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mestephil

APS Member 80855
23 Jan 2020
11:21:40pm

This past weekend I finally tackled sorting through the bank not issues. It don't have a ton of them and they are all used and really of no great value, but I have enough to take my sweet time to try to learn how to identify them.

Between secret marks and watermarks it was enough to drive me to drink. I just could not easily determine if the watermarks were there. As for secret marks, many were easy to follow (Thanks to Stampsmarter and Swedishtiger sites for their aids). I had it easier as I had none with grills, so that narrowed the sorting, but the green 3 cent Washingtons were challenging on the secret mark, at least to me.

This one looks clear to me:

Image Not Found

This one looks not to have it to me:

Image Not Found

Sometimes I felt like I might as well wet my finger and see which way the wind is blowing. The other one I had great difficulty with was determining if a 2 cent Washington was a type iV, Scott 279B. I was finding some subjects would had part of the characteristics, and some other parts of the characteristics. I found Swedish Tiger was helpful there, but it still was not simple.

I don't know if others have similar difficulties in deciding, but I cringe thinking of doing the Washington/Franklins soon.

Ken

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24 Jan 2020
08:03:35pm

re: Bank Note Issues

I collect Washington/Franklins, but not with any vigour. I rely, perhaps foolishly, on dealers’ descriptions. As I’ve mentioned before, Beverly Fox, co-owner of Weeda Stamps, told me that she simply refuses to deal with Washington/Franklins. Perhaps that’s why Weeda concentrates on Canada. But that leaves the question of Canada’s difficult-to-ID KGV Admiral stamps. I quit collecting those because I couldn’t tell one variety from another, especially the colour varieties.

Bob

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25 Jan 2020
07:59:13am

re: Bank Note Issues

See if this helps any.
Dan C.


http://www.uspcs.org/stamps-covers/uspod-issued-adhesives/the-1851-1860-issue/1851-1c-issue/



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25 Jan 2020
10:13:04am

re: Bank Note Issues

Please remove the 1847usa link above, it was a pirated website which has stolen the content from Bob Allen original site. Bob gave Stamp Smarter exclusive rights to republish his content.
http://stampsmarter.com/1847usa/1847Home.html
Don

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APS #213005
25 Jan 2020
10:26:21am

re: Bank Note Issues

"Please remove the 1847usa link above"




That address doesn't work anyway.

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25 Jan 2020
11:35:05am

re: Bank Note Issues

Sorry all-my bad-I should have proofed the reference before making it. Thanks for the corrections.
Dan C.

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25 Jan 2020
02:34:53pm

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No worries, Dan

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25 Jan 2020
02:40:53pm

re: Bank Note Issues

My original post was referring to the 1870-1890s banknote issues (my bad for not saying that) while the USPCS link above is for the 1851 series. But that be as it may, the USPCS link is a great reference.

For the 1870-1890s link it would be:

https://www.uspcs.org/stamps-covers/uspod-issued-adhesives/the-1870-93-issues/

Along with Stampsmarter and Swedish Tiger, I love the USPCS resources.

So much to learn, so little time......


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