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Europe/Germany : 1950 Saar stamp

 

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gerom

11 Jan 2020
01:03:56pm
Hello,
I want to buy a stamp Saar, 1950 Scott C12 (Mi # 298)
As the starting price of the auction seemed very small, I looked for information on the net.
I found on 2 serious(?)philatelic sites these images for the stamp:
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The last image drew my attention to the fact that this stamp was forged (which the site moderators do not seem to have noticed)
Please help me with what information do you know to identify this stamp or with images (good resolution) with the original or fake stamp.

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michael78651

11 Jan 2020
03:50:10pm
re: 1950 Saar stamp

I could not find that item in the Stamporama.auctions.

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gerom

11 Jan 2020
11:50:27pm
re: 1950 Saar stamp

No problems for me with this site.
I want to see forged?/genuine stamp or informations to detect the forged (?) stamp.
Unfortunately is not in Stamporama auctions.

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HockeyNut
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12 Jan 2020
07:41:05am
re: 1950 Saar stamp

Gerom,
The canceled one is a good one, the unused one FAKE. It's the wrong color (Too Brownish).
And as you noticed on the bottom of the stamp FAUX which means FAKE.
Here a scans from mine....

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HockeyNut
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12 Jan 2020
07:47:53am
re: 1950 Saar stamp

Here is another FAKE

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The stamp is too brownish

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HockeyNut
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12 Jan 2020
10:29:18am
re: 1950 Saar stamp

Gerom,

The more I look at the stamp, the more I have doubts about the authenticity of this cancelation.
The cancelation is unclear and I do not see anything that looks like saarland as in the cancelation of my stamp.

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nigelc
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12 Jan 2020
11:48:29am
re: 1950 Saar stamp

The cancellation reads FRIEDRICHSHAFEN, i.e. on Lake Constance, a long way from the Saar.

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13 Jan 2020
03:25:36am
re: 1950 Saar stamp

"The cancellation reads FRIEDRICHSHAFEN, i.e. on Lake Constance, a long way from the Saar."



Thanks, I could not read the name of the city
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gerom

13 Jan 2020
04:02:26am
re: 1950 Saar stamp

Thanks HockeyNut and nigelc
What surprises me is that in Michel (2011 ed.) only the postmark is reported as false.
This is the stamp I want to buy (with 8 Euros ??) and I tried to compare it with one of the HockeyNut stamps:

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I drew a blue line at the top on the stamp I want to buy.
As the colors cannot help me in the evaluation I looked for differences in drawing:
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What I think distinguishes the false stamps from the genuine ones I marked on the pictures:
- the horizontal line of the letter "A" has different inclinations
-The bottom of the letter "A" from SAAR are rounded to the genuine stamp.
Please KockeyNut if you have time to check if my observations are valid on the fake /genuine stamps you have.
Thank you.

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HockeyNut
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14 Jan 2020
06:17:08am
re: 1950 Saar stamp

Sorry Gerom,

I cannot see the differences.
My eyes are not so good anymore.


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gerom

14 Jan 2020
08:08:57am
re: 1950 Saar stamp

Very difficult for me too (myopia -6)
The trapezoid formed by the midline of "A", side legs and the line drawn by me is different
Same for the other "A".
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gerom

11 Jan 2020
01:03:56pm

Hello,
I want to buy a stamp Saar, 1950 Scott C12 (Mi # 298)
As the starting price of the auction seemed very small, I looked for information on the net.
I found on 2 serious(?)philatelic sites these images for the stamp:
Image Not Found
Image Not Found

The last image drew my attention to the fact that this stamp was forged (which the site moderators do not seem to have noticed)
Please help me with what information do you know to identify this stamp or with images (good resolution) with the original or fake stamp.

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michael78651

11 Jan 2020
03:50:10pm

re: 1950 Saar stamp

I could not find that item in the Stamporama.auctions.

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gerom

11 Jan 2020
11:50:27pm

re: 1950 Saar stamp

No problems for me with this site.
I want to see forged?/genuine stamp or informations to detect the forged (?) stamp.
Unfortunately is not in Stamporama auctions.

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HockeyNut

12 Jan 2020
07:41:05am

re: 1950 Saar stamp

Gerom,
The canceled one is a good one, the unused one FAKE. It's the wrong color (Too Brownish).
And as you noticed on the bottom of the stamp FAUX which means FAKE.
Here a scans from mine....

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Image Not Found

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HockeyNut

12 Jan 2020
07:47:53am

re: 1950 Saar stamp

Here is another FAKE

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The stamp is too brownish

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HockeyNut

12 Jan 2020
10:29:18am

re: 1950 Saar stamp

Gerom,

The more I look at the stamp, the more I have doubts about the authenticity of this cancelation.
The cancelation is unclear and I do not see anything that looks like saarland as in the cancelation of my stamp.

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nigelc

12 Jan 2020
11:48:29am

re: 1950 Saar stamp

The cancellation reads FRIEDRICHSHAFEN, i.e. on Lake Constance, a long way from the Saar.

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HockeyNut

13 Jan 2020
03:25:36am

re: 1950 Saar stamp

"The cancellation reads FRIEDRICHSHAFEN, i.e. on Lake Constance, a long way from the Saar."



Thanks, I could not read the name of the city
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gerom

13 Jan 2020
04:02:26am

re: 1950 Saar stamp

Thanks HockeyNut and nigelc
What surprises me is that in Michel (2011 ed.) only the postmark is reported as false.
This is the stamp I want to buy (with 8 Euros ??) and I tried to compare it with one of the HockeyNut stamps:

Image Not Found

I drew a blue line at the top on the stamp I want to buy.
As the colors cannot help me in the evaluation I looked for differences in drawing:
Image Not Found
Image Not Found
What I think distinguishes the false stamps from the genuine ones I marked on the pictures:
- the horizontal line of the letter "A" has different inclinations
-The bottom of the letter "A" from SAAR are rounded to the genuine stamp.
Please KockeyNut if you have time to check if my observations are valid on the fake /genuine stamps you have.
Thank you.

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HockeyNut

14 Jan 2020
06:17:08am

re: 1950 Saar stamp

Sorry Gerom,

I cannot see the differences.
My eyes are not so good anymore.


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gerom

14 Jan 2020
08:08:57am

re: 1950 Saar stamp

Very difficult for me too (myopia -6)
The trapezoid formed by the midline of "A", side legs and the line drawn by me is different
Same for the other "A".
Image Not Found

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