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Oceania/Australia : ROO GREEN STRIP OF SIX HALFPENNY

 

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Horamakhet
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28 Nov 2019
07:42:55pm
Hi to all,

I purchased this recently, the description said block of six coil stamps.

They are MNH, but did these stamps actually come as coil stamps?

Regards

Horamakhet


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28 Nov 2019
07:58:03pm
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Here in the States, coils are considered strips not blocks. I believe that the definition of block, stampwise, is at least two by two stamps attached together. Coils used to be stamps perforated on two opposite sides and the two other edges straight, but now with the new printing methods you can find coil stamps with perforations on all four sides and Aussie stamps are a good example of this.

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dell4c

28 Nov 2019
08:29:06pm

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this is from my Stanley Gibbons Aussie Album -

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dell4c

28 Nov 2019
08:34:07pm

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I probably should also have noted that in my album the first time they have spaces for coils is after the 1937 definitive issue. The 1/2 orange penny roo, the 1p queen and the two 2p scarlet and bright purple all have spaces for coil pairs. There is no space for any of the early roos as coil pairs.

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Tasnaki
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28 Nov 2019
09:08:56pm
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The BW ACSC says that just under 2 million were printed for coils.

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29 Nov 2019
05:44:36pm
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The specific use for coil stamps were for vending machines.

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langtounlad

29 Nov 2019
10:49:15pm
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Horamakhet

Can you please post a scan of reverse.

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Frank

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30 Nov 2019
03:10:22am
re: ROO GREEN STRIP OF SIX HALFPENNY

Referring to the image of the strip of six posted by Horamaket.

As most Machin collectors know, UK coil stamps printed for use in a coil dispenser exhibit two opposite sides that are carefully (usually) cut straight down the center of the line of perforations. The other opposite sides are torn or ripped asunder by the user. Thus they are easily identified as coil varieties.
The coil varieties are designated as either CTCT, or TCTC (Cut or torn side starting CW from the top)
See;
Adminware illustration coil perforations

Now my rapidly aging eyes seem to show that the green strip of six were cut on the right side, but not on the left, which would be TCTT in Machin speak. Usually stamps from a booklet.
Are Aussie coil stamps cut in a similar manner on opposite sides?
And are the left and right sides above showing having been cut ?


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Horamakhet
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02 Dec 2019
01:27:27am
re: ROO GREEN STRIP OF SIX HALFPENNY

Hi to all

Sorry I have not replied sooner, but the internet in this area was down, and it has taken from Friday last week, until 2pm today to fix it.

I think that Telstra just did not want to pay overtime on Friday Night or over the weekend.

Hi Langtounlad, I will post a scan of the back in the next few days on this thread.


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Horamakhet

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Horamakhet
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02 Dec 2019
05:49:28pm
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Hi Langtounlad

As promised a scan of the back of the half penny green roo

It does look like the coil type perferations from the back

Horamakhet

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03 Dec 2019
01:57:12pm
re: ROO GREEN STRIP OF SIX HALFPENNY

" .... It does look like the coil type perforations from the back ...."

Are you referring to the top and bottom variation in hole size, or the sides being cut rather than torn, a la Machins ?

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03 Dec 2019
04:26:28pm
re: ROO GREEN STRIP OF SIX HALFPENNY

Hi cdj1122

Just the variation in the perf hole sizes.

Never thought about the sides being cut, but that is interesting

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Horamakhet

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Horamakhet

28 Nov 2019
07:42:55pm

Hi to all,

I purchased this recently, the description said block of six coil stamps.

They are MNH, but did these stamps actually come as coil stamps?

Regards

Horamakhet


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28 Nov 2019
07:58:03pm

re: ROO GREEN STRIP OF SIX HALFPENNY

Here in the States, coils are considered strips not blocks. I believe that the definition of block, stampwise, is at least two by two stamps attached together. Coils used to be stamps perforated on two opposite sides and the two other edges straight, but now with the new printing methods you can find coil stamps with perforations on all four sides and Aussie stamps are a good example of this.

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dell4c

28 Nov 2019
08:29:06pm

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dell4c

28 Nov 2019
08:34:07pm

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re: ROO GREEN STRIP OF SIX HALFPENNY

I probably should also have noted that in my album the first time they have spaces for coils is after the 1937 definitive issue. The 1/2 orange penny roo, the 1p queen and the two 2p scarlet and bright purple all have spaces for coil pairs. There is no space for any of the early roos as coil pairs.

FYI
Bob -

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Tasnaki

28 Nov 2019
09:08:56pm

re: ROO GREEN STRIP OF SIX HALFPENNY

The BW ACSC says that just under 2 million were printed for coils.

Tasnaki

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Rob1956

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29 Nov 2019
05:44:36pm

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The specific use for coil stamps were for vending machines.

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langtounlad

29 Nov 2019
10:49:15pm

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Horamakhet

Can you please post a scan of reverse.

Regards
Frank

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30 Nov 2019
03:10:22am

re: ROO GREEN STRIP OF SIX HALFPENNY

Referring to the image of the strip of six posted by Horamaket.

As most Machin collectors know, UK coil stamps printed for use in a coil dispenser exhibit two opposite sides that are carefully (usually) cut straight down the center of the line of perforations. The other opposite sides are torn or ripped asunder by the user. Thus they are easily identified as coil varieties.
The coil varieties are designated as either CTCT, or TCTC (Cut or torn side starting CW from the top)
See;
Adminware illustration coil perforations

Now my rapidly aging eyes seem to show that the green strip of six were cut on the right side, but not on the left, which would be TCTT in Machin speak. Usually stamps from a booklet.
Are Aussie coil stamps cut in a similar manner on opposite sides?
And are the left and right sides above showing having been cut ?


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".... You may think you understood what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you think you heard is not what I thought I meant. .... "
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Horamakhet

02 Dec 2019
01:27:27am

re: ROO GREEN STRIP OF SIX HALFPENNY

Hi to all

Sorry I have not replied sooner, but the internet in this area was down, and it has taken from Friday last week, until 2pm today to fix it.

I think that Telstra just did not want to pay overtime on Friday Night or over the weekend.

Hi Langtounlad, I will post a scan of the back in the next few days on this thread.


Regards

Horamakhet

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Horamakhet

02 Dec 2019
05:49:28pm

re: ROO GREEN STRIP OF SIX HALFPENNY

Hi Langtounlad

As promised a scan of the back of the half penny green roo

It does look like the coil type perferations from the back

Horamakhet

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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
03 Dec 2019
01:57:12pm

re: ROO GREEN STRIP OF SIX HALFPENNY

" .... It does look like the coil type perforations from the back ...."

Are you referring to the top and bottom variation in hole size, or the sides being cut rather than torn, a la Machins ?

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".... You may think you understood what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you think you heard is not what I thought I meant. .... "
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Horamakhet

03 Dec 2019
04:26:28pm

re: ROO GREEN STRIP OF SIX HALFPENNY

Hi cdj1122

Just the variation in the perf hole sizes.

Never thought about the sides being cut, but that is interesting

Regards

Horamakhet

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