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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : MNH - Gum and Hinges predicaments

 

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cougar
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22 Nov 2019
02:17:21pm
As a kid I heard a story from a reliable source that the very avid stamp collectors removed the gum on their MNH stamps right away. They wanted to avoid any future issues with toning, rust and whatever bacteria stamp gum can support. It made sense to me, but still the value of a MNH OG stamp is higher than that of NG.

Hinges are another problematic area in our hobby. I thought we put them behind a long time ago, but I still find hinge remnants on recent stamps. This tells me not everyone is giving up on them.

All I can say is that I have never seen more stamps ruined / thinned as a result of pulled hinges as I have seen damaged by anything else.

No doubt removing gum and never attaching a hinge to a stamp would eliminate a number of potential risks and harms to those stamps over time.


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michael78651

22 Nov 2019
03:15:35pm
re: MNH - Gum and Hinges predicaments

"No doubt removing gum and never attaching a hinge to a stamp would eliminate a number of potential risks and harms to those stamps over time."



That is true, but the damage then is the reduced value as the stamp is no longer mint. It is now unused without gum.
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22 Nov 2019
03:24:34pm

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" I thought we put them behind a long time ago, but I still find hinge remnants on recent stamps. This tells me not everyone is giving up on them. "


Guilty as charged me-lud, still use them for used stamps, if someone does not like them they can be soaked off.
Same as self adhesives, I leave them on piece as I've had a couple that have been removed (with Bestine or citrus) that have arrived slightly stuck to each other or the card on which they were shipped.
Now I wonder how the album pages will fare in the future in contact with various envelope pieces.
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Tom in Exton, PA

22 Nov 2019
03:29:43pm
re: MNH - Gum and Hinges predicaments

"As a kid I heard a story from a reliable source that the very avid stamp collectors removed the gum on their MNH stamps right away. They wanted to avoid any future issues with toning, rust and whatever bacteria stamp gum can support."



There are early stamps from some countries where the gum cracked severely, damaging the stamp. I also have stamps printed on poor paper that even toned manila stock sheets. So yes, some early collectors advocated the removal of gum.

Then again there was a big business in regumming stamps back then, so who knows.

Something else I've noticed but never mentioned is stamps with pin holes. It was customary for dealers, especially at the lunch hour around Nassau Street in New York City, to post their stamps for sales on bulletin boards with tacks.

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22 Nov 2019
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Pinholes also happened when European flea market vendors made strings of stamps for sale. I bought a shoebox full of Great Britain #33's to check for plate nos and probably half had pinholes. There were still little groups of stamps with the string still running through them.

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23 Nov 2019
03:46:48am
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Of course removing the gum from mint stamps makes sense. It's a shame the valuation then goes down. I guess there will always be a clash between the collector and the investor in all of us.

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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..

27 Nov 2019
03:55:10pm
re: MNH - Gum and Hinges predicaments

" .... Of course removing the gum from mint stamps makes sense. ...."

Precisely.
I made a decision to not collect gum years ago and quite often
washed the various glutinous mixtures from many MNH stamps.
I doubt my heirs will know the difference when some buyer
decides to offer less, than the less despite MNH, condition
they would otherwise get.
That also excludes SA with backing paper.


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cougar

22 Nov 2019
02:17:21pm

As a kid I heard a story from a reliable source that the very avid stamp collectors removed the gum on their MNH stamps right away. They wanted to avoid any future issues with toning, rust and whatever bacteria stamp gum can support. It made sense to me, but still the value of a MNH OG stamp is higher than that of NG.

Hinges are another problematic area in our hobby. I thought we put them behind a long time ago, but I still find hinge remnants on recent stamps. This tells me not everyone is giving up on them.

All I can say is that I have never seen more stamps ruined / thinned as a result of pulled hinges as I have seen damaged by anything else.

No doubt removing gum and never attaching a hinge to a stamp would eliminate a number of potential risks and harms to those stamps over time.


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michael78651

22 Nov 2019
03:15:35pm

re: MNH - Gum and Hinges predicaments

"No doubt removing gum and never attaching a hinge to a stamp would eliminate a number of potential risks and harms to those stamps over time."



That is true, but the damage then is the reduced value as the stamp is no longer mint. It is now unused without gum.
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sheepshanks

22 Nov 2019
03:24:34pm

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re: MNH - Gum and Hinges predicaments

" I thought we put them behind a long time ago, but I still find hinge remnants on recent stamps. This tells me not everyone is giving up on them. "


Guilty as charged me-lud, still use them for used stamps, if someone does not like them they can be soaked off.
Same as self adhesives, I leave them on piece as I've had a couple that have been removed (with Bestine or citrus) that have arrived slightly stuck to each other or the card on which they were shipped.
Now I wonder how the album pages will fare in the future in contact with various envelope pieces.
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Tom in Exton, PA
22 Nov 2019
03:29:43pm

re: MNH - Gum and Hinges predicaments

"As a kid I heard a story from a reliable source that the very avid stamp collectors removed the gum on their MNH stamps right away. They wanted to avoid any future issues with toning, rust and whatever bacteria stamp gum can support."



There are early stamps from some countries where the gum cracked severely, damaging the stamp. I also have stamps printed on poor paper that even toned manila stock sheets. So yes, some early collectors advocated the removal of gum.

Then again there was a big business in regumming stamps back then, so who knows.

Something else I've noticed but never mentioned is stamps with pin holes. It was customary for dealers, especially at the lunch hour around Nassau Street in New York City, to post their stamps for sales on bulletin boards with tacks.

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22 Nov 2019
07:29:21pm

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re: MNH - Gum and Hinges predicaments

Pinholes also happened when European flea market vendors made strings of stamps for sale. I bought a shoebox full of Great Britain #33's to check for plate nos and probably half had pinholes. There were still little groups of stamps with the string still running through them.

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DannyS

23 Nov 2019
03:46:48am

re: MNH - Gum and Hinges predicaments

Of course removing the gum from mint stamps makes sense. It's a shame the valuation then goes down. I guess there will always be a clash between the collector and the investor in all of us.

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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
27 Nov 2019
03:55:10pm

re: MNH - Gum and Hinges predicaments

" .... Of course removing the gum from mint stamps makes sense. ...."

Precisely.
I made a decision to not collect gum years ago and quite often
washed the various glutinous mixtures from many MNH stamps.
I doubt my heirs will know the difference when some buyer
decides to offer less, than the less despite MNH, condition
they would otherwise get.
That also excludes SA with backing paper.


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