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biggeorge
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28 Oct 2019
10:10:34pm
In the upcoming Quad City Stamp Club annual Stamp Out Cancer Auction, we will have this cover that one of the volunteers found in a box of covers.

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Included with the cover was a note on "Stamps - A Weekly Magazine of Philately" letterhead from Harry Konwiser. Konwiser was the author of several book on Postal Mrkings and Posstal history. The letter is dated May 12, 1938. In it Konwiser states that he would not be interested in the cover personally, but collectors of 'air crash covers' might be willing to spend $1 to $5 for the cover.

Given that this advice was presented in 1938, what would collectors be willing to pay in 2020?

Our 2020 Stamp Out Cancer Auction is scheduled for May. When preparing and listing this cover in the catalog, what would you recommend we put as an estimated value?

Thanks in advance,

George

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michael78651
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29 Oct 2019
12:14:52am
re: Railway Crash Cover

Here's a link to the history from which the cover was salvaged:

http://www.gendisasters.com/wyoming/4346/glen-rock-wy-train-wreck-sept-1923

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biggeorge
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29 Oct 2019
10:48:45am
re: Railway Crash Cover

Michael,

Thanks for the link. The volunteer who found the cover in the collection has printed out much of the material to accompany the cover as ephemera and background. It is interesting how those events were covered back in the day! And how disastrous rail crashes were. Several years ago I took Amtrak from the MidWest to Los Angeles. The day before our train, there had been an accident on the line involving the same scheduled train hit a van trying to cross the tracks. Most of the people in the van were killed but no one on the train was injured. Rail safety has increased tremendously.

George

PS: Even HO gauge steam engines (brass) seem to derail more than HO gauge diesel!

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michael78651
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29 Oct 2019
11:08:48am
re: Railway Crash Cover

It's not just the brass locomotives. The front trucks behind the pilot do not like switch points and frogs.

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Linus
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29 Oct 2019
03:25:59pm
re: Railway Crash Cover

Cool cover, George. I would easily bid $10 for it, but I bet it sells for double that amount, with that background history going with it.

Linus

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Bobstamp
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29 Oct 2019
10:46:45pm
re: Railway Crash Cover

I don’t know what the market is for train crash covers, but if it’s all similar to airline crash covers, the Coal Creek cover is worth a lot more than $10, especially considering how much is known about its provenance. I think a reasonable price would be on the order of $50.

Bob

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biggeorge
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01 Nov 2019
11:46:43am
re: Railway Crash Cover

Thanks for all the input! I will write up the cover with ephemera with an estimate of $50.

Linus, I will look for you to open the bidding! Hope to see you at the Auction on May 16!

George

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Linus
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01 Nov 2019
12:26:20pm
re: Railway Crash Cover

George -

I love your auction! I will try my best to make it again next year, and would love to bid on that cover. I always sit on the foreign/worldwide side, and there is so much action going on, I have been known to miss bidding on a key USA item, but that is all part of the day.

For those of you who have never been to the Stamp Out Cancer Auction, they have two auction rings going simultaneously, one all USA and one Foreign/Worldwide. They have so much stuff to sell, you got to be paying attention, as things sell fast. You cannot believe all the good stuff they get, from full sets of new Scott International albums, to boxes of covers, to nice single stamps, to box lots of stamps on/off paper, to who knows what. It varies from year to year, but they always have good material at good prices.

It is always a fun day, with all money going to a great cause, and I highly recommend it!

Linus

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biggeorge
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02 Nov 2019
12:05:56pm
re: Railway Crash Cover

Linus,

Thanks for the recap and praise for the auction! Believe it or not, we really enjoy raining the money for the American Cancer Society.

As far as missing lots because you are on the wrong side of the two auctions: We always take "mail/email" bids. The auctioneers and workers who are usually very busy during the event, have sent in bids to the Chairman. The bids are "anonymized" and put into action by the "Mail Bidders" who are in the audience. Mail bids should be placed at least 24 hours (see the rules when published) in advance to allow the bids to be registered and placed on a list. If there is only one mail bid on an item, the mail bidder will simply join in the bidding up to the limit set by the absent bidder. If there are more than one bid on a particular item, the mail bidder will enter the auction with a bid equal to the second high bidder. The only person who knows the identity of the mail bidder is the Auction Chairman or whoever prepares the lists for the mail bidders.

The only caution is to know what items you have "mail bid" on. I have found myself bidding against the mail bidder, but really bidding against myself! But then it all goes to the ACS.

George

PS: This year's auction will be on May 16th, 2020. The auction list will be posted on the website about a month before the auction (or sooner). All are invited to attend or bid by mail/email or to attend the auction in person!

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