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Two examples of Scott Cat(SC #361)
Type III Imperforate are causing me some angst! (see picture.) One of the stamps has a "shifted center;" possibly rendering it as an "error stamp?" The catalogue is somewhat vague regarding SC #361 and other imperforate stamps of this design stating "Several values exist imperforate, but they were not regularly issued. Number 361 Imperforate is printer's waste." Given that description, my question is two-fold. Does #361 Imperforate have a value? If so, how can the value of the "shifted center" stamp be determined? 
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Stampbaby -
I brought up this topic awhile ago on Stamporama, see this thread:
https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=18801#139957
You can search eBay sold listings for China Scott #361 like I did. A lot of them exist and are sold there. Like a lot of freak stamps, the greater the shift, the slightly higher the price. Yes they have value; whatever a collector would be willing to pay for a "stamp" that was not officially issued by China. This printer's waste should have been destroyed, but was pilfered out onto the stamp market years ago.
Linus
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Very informative Linus! Thank you.
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My pleasure. Your pair looks very much like my pair. I would estimate somewhere between $8 to $10 for the pair of yours, on a good day. Consider them back-of-the-book items and part of the history of collecting China.
Linus
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12:41:17am
I have four or five examples, one offset left almost as far as Linus copy,
one just slightly left, one slightly right and one almost in place.
According to my pencilled marginal notes, from thirty or forty years ago
some have the "Dah" in the button, some not, or at that time undeterminable.
I have several other Sun Yat Sen values also imperf.
At the time I had chucked both Scott as well as Minkus W/w catalogs, in
favor of Gibbons and a pleasant discovery of a very lightly used Ma catalog.
In the sixties, and early seventies I became fascinated with those ubiquitous
Chinese issues that were despised by dealers, who would just put whole sections
of parted albums in the "Junk" box on their counters to be sold for a pittance.
I tried never to pass them up.
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Thanks Charlie:
I have access to mass accumulations of definitive stamps from China, Germany, Great Britain etc., and at a "pittance," as you stated, I have managed to fill-in most of the few remaining blank spots for these countries and many others. I have always liked collecting the classic period definitive issue stamps, especially those issued prior to 1955. From time to time, I re-inventory my albums for those few little ones that I don't have that are still out there. Looking through accumulations for "oldies" seems like a journey that never ends, but still holds my interest after all these years.
Gil
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I started collecting way back when in a Scott Modern album, graduating to an International Jr. (That's now Scott International vol 1) Then the Brown Internationals, which you could buy new then. My albums have grown a bit ratty since, but the stamps inside please me.
Stamp collecting takes one to unexpected places and interests. I bought three volumes of Scott's Germany Specialized from a coin dealer to get one stamp. That turned into a 9 volume collection focusing on pre-1940 stamps and covers, but including material past that as it came my way. I have a 2 vol collection of France; an album of Austria pre 1938. Other 'stuff' as my interests have shifted over the years.
My current main interests include covers, post cards and letters from World War One. I've made my own album for this, using Word Perfect and card stock acid free paper. One of my favorite albums is a collection of Frankfurt am Main covers from before the city was annexed by Prussia.(1868)These are mostly stampless covers with postal markings. Some of the later covers have Thurn and Taxis stamps applied. And any T and T stamp with '220' on it was mailed in Frankfurt.
The point of this rambling comment is, collect what you like, when you like. Stamp collecting is supposed to be fun. Do what pleases you.
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In that I do not specialize in collecting China, I throw this out to the members for analysis.
Two examples of Scott Cat(SC #361) Type III Imperforate are causing me some angst! (see picture.) One of the stamps has a "shifted center;" possibly rendering it as an "error stamp?" The catalogue is somewhat vague regarding SC #361 and other imperforate stamps of this design stating "Several values exist imperforate, but they were not regularly issued. Number 361 Imperforate is printer's waste." Given that description, my question is two-fold. Does #361 Imperforate have a value? If so, how can the value of the "shifted center" stamp be determined?
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re: Need Help With China Stamp(s)
Stampbaby -
I brought up this topic awhile ago on Stamporama, see this thread:
https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=18801#139957
You can search eBay sold listings for China Scott #361 like I did. A lot of them exist and are sold there. Like a lot of freak stamps, the greater the shift, the slightly higher the price. Yes they have value; whatever a collector would be willing to pay for a "stamp" that was not officially issued by China. This printer's waste should have been destroyed, but was pilfered out onto the stamp market years ago.
Linus
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re: Need Help With China Stamp(s)
Very informative Linus! Thank you.
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My pleasure. Your pair looks very much like my pair. I would estimate somewhere between $8 to $10 for the pair of yours, on a good day. Consider them back-of-the-book items and part of the history of collecting China.
Linus
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27 Aug 2019
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re: Need Help With China Stamp(s)
I have four or five examples, one offset left almost as far as Linus copy,
one just slightly left, one slightly right and one almost in place.
According to my pencilled marginal notes, from thirty or forty years ago
some have the "Dah" in the button, some not, or at that time undeterminable.
I have several other Sun Yat Sen values also imperf.
At the time I had chucked both Scott as well as Minkus W/w catalogs, in
favor of Gibbons and a pleasant discovery of a very lightly used Ma catalog.
In the sixties, and early seventies I became fascinated with those ubiquitous
Chinese issues that were despised by dealers, who would just put whole sections
of parted albums in the "Junk" box on their counters to be sold for a pittance.
I tried never to pass them up.
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re: Need Help With China Stamp(s)
Thanks Charlie:
I have access to mass accumulations of definitive stamps from China, Germany, Great Britain etc., and at a "pittance," as you stated, I have managed to fill-in most of the few remaining blank spots for these countries and many others. I have always liked collecting the classic period definitive issue stamps, especially those issued prior to 1955. From time to time, I re-inventory my albums for those few little ones that I don't have that are still out there. Looking through accumulations for "oldies" seems like a journey that never ends, but still holds my interest after all these years.
Gil
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05:59:04pm
re: Need Help With China Stamp(s)
I started collecting way back when in a Scott Modern album, graduating to an International Jr. (That's now Scott International vol 1) Then the Brown Internationals, which you could buy new then. My albums have grown a bit ratty since, but the stamps inside please me.
Stamp collecting takes one to unexpected places and interests. I bought three volumes of Scott's Germany Specialized from a coin dealer to get one stamp. That turned into a 9 volume collection focusing on pre-1940 stamps and covers, but including material past that as it came my way. I have a 2 vol collection of France; an album of Austria pre 1938. Other 'stuff' as my interests have shifted over the years.
My current main interests include covers, post cards and letters from World War One. I've made my own album for this, using Word Perfect and card stock acid free paper. One of my favorite albums is a collection of Frankfurt am Main covers from before the city was annexed by Prussia.(1868)These are mostly stampless covers with postal markings. Some of the later covers have Thurn and Taxis stamps applied. And any T and T stamp with '220' on it was mailed in Frankfurt.
The point of this rambling comment is, collect what you like, when you like. Stamp collecting is supposed to be fun. Do what pleases you.
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