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I recently joined this forum and read a lot of interesting messages.
I noticed that different people do not know exactly what the expert- (Prüfer-) signs at the back of the stamps mean.
Well, with this post I will try to give some clarification.
There are different experts and each has its own specialization.
Some examples are :
Dr. Dub
Heinz Grabowski
Paul Peter Jäschke
Dr. Oertel
Eduard Peschl
Schlegel BPP
Hans Dieter Schlegel
Dr. Simon
Hermann Ritter
Velimir Ercegovic
Heinz Jungjohann
Gerhard Krischke
Werner Pickenpack
Hermann Sieger
Walter Zirath
....
And many, many more
There is a strong protocol how to place the signs.
Below you can see how the experts place their signs on the stamp :
1) Stamps without overprint (Perforation, Puncture, Without perforation)
2) Stamps with overprint (Perforation, Puncture, Without perforation)
3) Specimen
4) Stamps with issues (Small defects, Big flaws)
Hope this article gives you some clarity.
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09:44:53am
"Perforation, Puncture, Without perforation"
What does "puncture" mean? In English, we would interpret that as "a hole in the stamp", i.e. a fault.
And what does "BPP" stand for?
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And some samples below :
A. Schlegel
Dr. Dub
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BPP = Bund Philatelistischer Prüfer
Puncture : in german is the term DURCHSTICH
Do not no the english word, sorry
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10:09:17am
DURCHSTICH = roulette
Germany Serrate Roulette
Chile roulette block
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Thanks,
Never to old to learn..............
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Good post but what do the snowflakes/circles beneath the stamps mean? Used/unused? The actual stamp illustrations used only show the mark on one side, does this mean they are unused or used.
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** means mint condition. The marking is only placed on left side.
* means unused. The marking is only placed on left side side.
(.) means used. The marking is only placed on the right side.
When the stamp has a flaw the marking will be placed higher on the stamp.
The greater the flaw the higher the signing.
Get it ??
See the examples in post 3
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https://www.filatelia.fi/experts/namesa.html
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Well on a special request........
Expert sign of Prof. Rudolf Gilbert :
The good one.
And the forged ones.
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Hello HockeyNut
I saw stamps with sign of expert BPP and a letter.It's usualy to inscript by expert the variety color? or is the fake ?
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I do not understand what you mean ?
Do you have a letter (with stamps) and on that letter a sign of the expert?
Or
Do you have a stamp (with on the back a sign of the expert) AND a certificate of that expert in which he describs that stamp?
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Sorry for my english.
For me,letter=character=a,b,c,d,e....
I found on net an example:
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Gerom, what you marked beside the experts name is the variety of the stamp by Michel catalog
Manfred
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Well gerom,
The expert sign is from Michael Jäschke - Lantelme
That Ib in front of the sign could handle about 1 stamp of several stamps
For instance you have the GERMANIA stamps.
In the Michel we have 2 major differences :
Friedensdruck ( Peace printing ) which is shown by the romian I
Kriegsdruck ( War printing ) which is shown by the romian II
And besides that we have a 10 Pfg Germania stamp with 4 different colors (a,b,c or d)
So to give the right stamp in the catalog you could have Michel Nr 86 I b
And the expert places a note before this sign that it handles about that particular stamp
Michel number 86 Ib
(by the way that stamp is worth about 14 euros NH)
If we talk about Michel Nr 86 Id it would be 500 euros.
Got it?
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Hello all,
I recently joined this forum and read a lot of interesting messages.
I noticed that different people do not know exactly what the expert- (Prüfer-) signs at the back of the stamps mean.
Well, with this post I will try to give some clarification.
There are different experts and each has its own specialization.
Some examples are :
Dr. Dub
Heinz Grabowski
Paul Peter Jäschke
Dr. Oertel
Eduard Peschl
Schlegel BPP
Hans Dieter Schlegel
Dr. Simon
Hermann Ritter
Velimir Ercegovic
Heinz Jungjohann
Gerhard Krischke
Werner Pickenpack
Hermann Sieger
Walter Zirath
....
And many, many more
There is a strong protocol how to place the signs.
Below you can see how the experts place their signs on the stamp :
1) Stamps without overprint (Perforation, Puncture, Without perforation)
2) Stamps with overprint (Perforation, Puncture, Without perforation)
3) Specimen
4) Stamps with issues (Small defects, Big flaws)
Hope this article gives you some clarity.
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13 Aug 2019
09:44:53am
re: BPP marks on backside of stamps
"Perforation, Puncture, Without perforation"
What does "puncture" mean? In English, we would interpret that as "a hole in the stamp", i.e. a fault.
And what does "BPP" stand for?
Roy
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re: BPP marks on backside of stamps
And some samples below :
A. Schlegel
Dr. Dub
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re: BPP marks on backside of stamps
BPP = Bund Philatelistischer Prüfer
Puncture : in german is the term DURCHSTICH
Do not no the english word, sorry
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re: BPP marks on backside of stamps
DURCHSTICH = roulette
Germany Serrate Roulette
Chile roulette block
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Thanks,
Never to old to learn..............
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re: BPP marks on backside of stamps
Good post but what do the snowflakes/circles beneath the stamps mean? Used/unused? The actual stamp illustrations used only show the mark on one side, does this mean they are unused or used.
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re: BPP marks on backside of stamps
** means mint condition. The marking is only placed on left side.
* means unused. The marking is only placed on left side side.
(.) means used. The marking is only placed on the right side.
When the stamp has a flaw the marking will be placed higher on the stamp.
The greater the flaw the higher the signing.
Get it ??
See the examples in post 3
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re: BPP marks on backside of stamps
https://www.filatelia.fi/experts/namesa.html
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re: BPP marks on backside of stamps
Well on a special request........
Expert sign of Prof. Rudolf Gilbert :
The good one.
And the forged ones.
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re: BPP marks on backside of stamps
Hello HockeyNut
I saw stamps with sign of expert BPP and a letter.It's usualy to inscript by expert the variety color? or is the fake ?
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re: BPP marks on backside of stamps
I do not understand what you mean ?
Do you have a letter (with stamps) and on that letter a sign of the expert?
Or
Do you have a stamp (with on the back a sign of the expert) AND a certificate of that expert in which he describs that stamp?
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11:54:08am
re: BPP marks on backside of stamps
Sorry for my english.
For me,letter=character=a,b,c,d,e....
I found on net an example:
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re: BPP marks on backside of stamps
Gerom, what you marked beside the experts name is the variety of the stamp by Michel catalog
Manfred
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re: BPP marks on backside of stamps
Well gerom,
The expert sign is from Michael Jäschke - Lantelme
That Ib in front of the sign could handle about 1 stamp of several stamps
For instance you have the GERMANIA stamps.
In the Michel we have 2 major differences :
Friedensdruck ( Peace printing ) which is shown by the romian I
Kriegsdruck ( War printing ) which is shown by the romian II
And besides that we have a 10 Pfg Germania stamp with 4 different colors (a,b,c or d)
So to give the right stamp in the catalog you could have Michel Nr 86 I b
And the expert places a note before this sign that it handles about that particular stamp
Michel number 86 Ib
(by the way that stamp is worth about 14 euros NH)
If we talk about Michel Nr 86 Id it would be 500 euros.
Got it?
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