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John Macco
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04 Aug 2019
07:45:23pm
When did Russia first put the year of issue on its stamps?

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Calstamp
04 Aug 2019
08:06:27pm
re: Russian Year Dates


Circa 1955

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08 Aug 2019
04:56:03pm
re: Russian Year Dates

There are earlier sporadic issues that have specific dates on them going back to 1922.

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SForgCa
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09 Aug 2019
09:23:30pm
re: Russian Year Dates

As noted 1922 has dated overprints
The 1923 series is probably the first postals with the year printed
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jbaxter5256
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10 Aug 2019
06:39:15pm
re: Russian Year Dates

Would anyone have some example stamp images for the Chita issues from the Far Eastern Republic to share here? I am particularly interested in any of the issues showing a P. 5 P. surcharge on them.

If anyone has a copy of Dr. R. J. Ceresa's monumental work on Russian stamps, a scan of the page(s) associated with these stamp issues would be very helpful as well.

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SForgCa
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10 Aug 2019
08:16:17pm
re: Russian Year Dates

A comparatively more expensive series
The heading reads Chita/ Ataman Semanov (Semyonov)
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Attractive to forgers
Probably Genuine stamp
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Forgeries
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jbaxter5256
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10 Aug 2019
11:12:11pm
re: Russian Year Dates

Thanks! I have a stamp's image which I recently acquired through Hipstamp which I posted pictures to the Smithsonian Stamp for Every Country Album and Checklist thread. I believe it to be genuine but some are questioning it because the stamp is heavily counterfeited. I uploaded a 600dpi scan to that thread but am on a different computer without access to the scan image now.

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SForgCa
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11 Aug 2019
07:15:25am
re: Russian Year Dates

Ceresa does not mention forgeries or differences on this issue.
In fact the section on Chita is rather limited.
He does offer a hand drawn image of the genuine
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It should be taken with some reservations as it is only one opinion and a sketch
The key points are the equidistant P's
The serif shapes and the dot sizes

With this, it appears your stamp is like the double overprint I posted
I have not seen a "certified" example

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jbaxter5256
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12 Aug 2019
10:15:35am
re: Russian Year Dates

Interesting quandary. I've left messages for the seller and for Greg Mirsky who advertises Russian material in the Scott catalogs to see if additional details, especially any other available high resolution stamp images, could be shared for the Far Eastern Republic "of Siberia" Chita N3 issue with overprint by General Semenov's forces or might be available. Michael Generali points out that there are several images in the Scott catalog of fake stamps. The only online example I have seen so far is from Dr. Cheng Chang's collection at http://www.worldstampalbum.com/ but the image is not of high enough resolution to provide useful guidance plus it would only provide an either or option versus the picture in the Scott catalog. It was a bit disappointing that Dr. Ceresa's books did not have more definitive pictures or commentary on the stamp issues although not that surprising in such a monumental undertaking.

The stamp is a low enough value at $25 catalog that auction catalog results are not that likely to be prevalent either. Yes, definitely a quandary.

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jbaxter5256
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12 Aug 2019
02:16:20pm
re: Russian Year Dates

Thanks for the replies associated with my issue. Sorry about hijacking John Macco's original thread for a bit.

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15 Aug 2019
04:00:15pm
re: Russian Year Dates

Thanks for the info on the forgeries. I am working through my Russia right now that is almost complete with the exception of the high value early issues. I am just about to work on this set tonight.

I have another that I'm pretty sure is a forgery from the 1910s empire - I'll scan and post it later to get other's input.

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gerom
15 Sep 2019
03:19:34am
re: Russian Year Dates

I don't know the date of issue...but they have 1921 and 1922.Image Not Found

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michael78651
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16 Sep 2019
02:11:39am
re: Russian Year Dates

Those are the years of issue.

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