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General Philatelic/Newcomer Cnr : Fake overprint?

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gerom
19 Jul 2019
09:36:49am
It is a variety of Indochina Scott#59 (distance between 0&5 is 2mm).I have a response from an french site that is possible to be a forgery (shadow on top of overprint)The cote is good (900-1000$) and I think to be forged stamp but I don't find on net anything about.What is your opinion? fake (please,transmitt me the reference)or genuine overprint?

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SForgCa
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19 Jul 2019
01:39:20pm
re: Fake overprint?

I guess your concern is whether you have the much rarer 2 mm (vs 1.5 mm)
Overprints are VERY difficult as many were really well done
I am not sure about the "shadow" issue. These edges are "often" a sign of the overprint being applied under pressure and the ink being squeezed out on the edges.
This would be typical of an original mechanical press (see below) - BUT not a guarantee
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The bad news is that Fournier specialized in making very good fake overprints for all the French Colonies - so...??
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No further comment on validity

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gerom
20 Jul 2019
03:38:34am
re: Fake overprint?

I have a lot of French Colonies stamps (genuines or forgeries Fournier).I succeeded to identify them (different design,perforation and gum) but for this one I don't have any reference, except G.Kock-World Forgery Catalogue who list Scott#59.I hope someone have a Fournier Album and to send me a visual reference for this stamp (if it is forged??)
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SForgCa
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20 Jul 2019
11:54:19am
re: Fake overprint?

Some forgers applied fake overprints on genuine stamps but generally these are not well done.
Fournier tended to forge the regular stamp and then apply the overprints. Others also made forgeries, the Senf brothers and Hirschberger who bought Fournier's business when he passed.

A quick very basic lesson

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Genuine stamp
Note the comb perfs

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Hirschberger/Fournier forgery
Look at the following
The perfs
The missing finger in the pole hand
The difference in the letters esp. the P & E
The difference in the fruit bowl
Lots of others

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A modern 1980 forgery
Lots of fine details missing and letters different
look at accent over the E in MOHELI

Are all these forgeries plentiful - YES
A set on auction site - ALL FOURNIER FORGERIES
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gerom
20 Jul 2019
01:10:24pm
re: Fake overprint?

Are people who buy the Fournier forgeries?I have more than 100.An exemple with forgeries of Indochine:
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and an exemple with the 2mm varieties,genuines:
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