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09:02:58pm
Thanks in advance,
Kelly
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Top stamp is from the Transcaucasian Federated Republic, Scott #29. The other stamp is probably a revenue.
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01:44:04am
Awesome - thank you so much - the top one has been making me lose my mind for over 2 months now!
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Believe the second stamp is (City of ) St Petersburg fiscal.
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As noted the second one is a St Petersburg City Council Fee Stamp
The date is the problem as there are lots of issues including a perfed series
I would estimate 1910/11
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06:57:41pm
If you Google "stamps with cyrillic writing" there is a site which shows all countries containing Cyrillic writing. We are very spoiled now! I remember the first stamp I had from this area, it took about a year of occasional looking to figure it out. Life is so much easier with Mr. Google to help us!!!!
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SForgCa...
Based on the (modern) Cyrillic characters, thoughts on a later issue date?
Jim in SoCal
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Changed my mind on this - should have deciphered the Cyrillic and the very old catalog I used is rather difficult to read and seemed to indicate 1911
So that would probably make it 1865 and the Forbin catalog I checked would agree and lists it as "POLICE URBAlNE"
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This one reads S.P.B. City Council Duma
This is the 1883 issue and rough translation City authorities/regulations
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Hi,
This stamps says "St Petersburg City Council" but there were also stamps in this same design first with the word "Police" instead of "Council" (and also a version with "Duma", the city's governing council).
Barefoot lists them all under "St Petersburg Police Passes" and says they were used on residence permits.
The imperf Politsiya issue was from 1860, the Duma and Upravie design appeared imperf in 1865.
Perf versions of the Upravie stamps were issued from 1885 and finally there was a similar design in around 1915 where the city's name was changed to "Petrograd".
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In this instance, am taking the word “yprava” to most closely equate to “justice”.
As in St. Petersburg City Justice (Board or Council).
Translation is rarely a perfect art.
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08:44:46am
I too had assumed the second was a fiscal and related to the justice system based on the terms used on the stamp but I couldn't figure out a time frame. My albums are laid out by issue date, not separated into Scott layout so the rough estimate of issue date is very helpful. Thanks so much.
Kelly
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28 Jun 2019
09:02:58pm
Can anyone ID these for me pls?
Thanks in advance,
Kelly
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10:05:22pm
re: Russia ID? Cyrillic type
Top stamp is from the Transcaucasian Federated Republic, Scott #29. The other stamp is probably a revenue.
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29 Jun 2019
01:44:04am
re: Russia ID? Cyrillic type
Awesome - thank you so much - the top one has been making me lose my mind for over 2 months now!
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08:00:22am
re: Russia ID? Cyrillic type
Believe the second stamp is (City of ) St Petersburg fiscal.
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re: Russia ID? Cyrillic type
As noted the second one is a St Petersburg City Council Fee Stamp
The date is the problem as there are lots of issues including a perfed series
I would estimate 1910/11
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30 Jun 2019
06:57:41pm
re: Russia ID? Cyrillic type
If you Google "stamps with cyrillic writing" there is a site which shows all countries containing Cyrillic writing. We are very spoiled now! I remember the first stamp I had from this area, it took about a year of occasional looking to figure it out. Life is so much easier with Mr. Google to help us!!!!
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07:58:08pm
re: Russia ID? Cyrillic type
SForgCa...
Based on the (modern) Cyrillic characters, thoughts on a later issue date?
Jim in SoCal
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re: Russia ID? Cyrillic type
Changed my mind on this - should have deciphered the Cyrillic and the very old catalog I used is rather difficult to read and seemed to indicate 1911
So that would probably make it 1865 and the Forbin catalog I checked would agree and lists it as "POLICE URBAlNE"
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This one reads S.P.B. City Council Duma
This is the 1883 issue and rough translation City authorities/regulations
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re: Russia ID? Cyrillic type
Hi,
This stamps says "St Petersburg City Council" but there were also stamps in this same design first with the word "Police" instead of "Council" (and also a version with "Duma", the city's governing council).
Barefoot lists them all under "St Petersburg Police Passes" and says they were used on residence permits.
The imperf Politsiya issue was from 1860, the Duma and Upravie design appeared imperf in 1865.
Perf versions of the Upravie stamps were issued from 1885 and finally there was a similar design in around 1915 where the city's name was changed to "Petrograd".
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11:56:37pm
re: Russia ID? Cyrillic type
In this instance, am taking the word “yprava” to most closely equate to “justice”.
As in St. Petersburg City Justice (Board or Council).
Translation is rarely a perfect art.
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A Service Dog gives a person with a disability independence. Never approach, distract or pet a working dog, especially when (s)he is in harness. Never be afraid to ask questions to the handler (parent).
04 Jul 2019
08:44:46am
re: Russia ID? Cyrillic type
I too had assumed the second was a fiscal and related to the justice system based on the terms used on the stamp but I couldn't figure out a time frame. My albums are laid out by issue date, not separated into Scott layout so the rough estimate of issue date is very helpful. Thanks so much.
Kelly
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