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Oceania/Australia : Kangaroo one penny stamp

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Pooh
28 Jun 2019
08:22:34pm
Image Not FoundHello, Just some information about this stamp I'm practising with working out dies Die 1 has a break in the inside frame before O of ONE. The first stamp shows this but I can't find the break in the second stamp?? I hope I have this right?? Pooh

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28 Jun 2019
08:33:08pm
re: Kangaroo one penny stamp

Agreed. I can see the beak in the left hand stamp but not the right. Does this mean that this is a plate variety?

Regards... Tim

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Pooh
29 Jun 2019
01:11:02am
re: Kangaroo one penny stamp

I wouldn't have a clue?/ Is there someone else who can help with this

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Horamakhet
29 Jun 2019
08:50:37pm
re: Kangaroo one penny stamp

Hi Pooh
I think I can see a break on the second stamp, it looks like it is covered a little buy the postmark.

Can you show a larger scan of the the left hand corner of the second stamp.

I can see a break in the right hand side of the second stamp as well, near the Y of penny

There is a variety of Die I and Die 2 as a pair, but it is extremely rare.

A larger scan, or if you have a jewellers loupe 10X, it will be easy to find.

Regards

Horamakhet

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Pooh
29 Jun 2019
08:57:24pm
re: Kangaroo one penny stamp

I will try but where do you look for a die 1, is it the inside frame near the O or some where else

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29 Jun 2019
09:54:10pm
re: Kangaroo one penny stamp

Cannot tell from the scan but these are die I & II

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The break is quite noticeable

There is also a Die IIa
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Pooh
29 Jun 2019
11:26:33pm
re: Kangaroo one penny stamp

Image Not Found Here it is, not clear but another one to put on the back burner until my kids come back Pooh

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Horamakhet
30 Jun 2019
10:13:39am
re: Kangaroo one penny stamp

Hi Pooh
Can you do an even larger scan of the left hand corner of the second stamp

Regards

Horamakhet

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Pooh
01 Jul 2019
08:57:18pm
re: Kangaroo one penny stamp

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I tried it again I still don't think it is clear enough so I just got to wait for my kids to help Pooh

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Pooh
01 Jul 2019
09:23:08pm
re: Kangaroo one penny stamp

I had another look with more light and it looks like opposite the O the inside border is straight then just beside the O there is a bulge but it still looks like it is joined. Unless I can make this clearer we will never know Pooh

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Pooh
01 Jul 2019
10:44:24pm
re: Kangaroo one penny stamp

Here you go Horamakhet once again this is as best I can Just so people know about a couple of years ago I bought a box full of one Penny Kangaroo stamps at auction
Out of it I got one stamp with extra Tasmania, there was also one envelope with stamps in it but written on the envelope last checked in 1969.
I suppose I just got to try and make it clearer?? Image Not Found

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Pooh
02 Jul 2019
02:28:16am
re: Kangaroo one penny stamp

Where I live people talk about bulls, cattle sales, drought, stamps NO. So I'm using what I can which is a torch, magnifying glass. No corner stores so I can't get a jewellers loop. When I use the magnifying glass I check both stamps to compare the stamps. You can see die 1 on one stamp but not on the other. I even went outside with the sunlight and the same, a straight line a bit of a curved line but no break. I even used a reading lamp and the same, I have got no one else to show this to up here so I will try and make it clearer. This is all I can do Pooh

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Horamakhet
02 Jul 2019
10:43:34am
re: Kangaroo one penny stamp

Hi pooh

I think they are both die 1

If you want to be 100% sure, you would need to have them certified by a reputable person or organisation

Regard

Horamakhet

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SForgCa
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03 Jul 2019
07:16:38pm
re: Kangaroo one penny stamp

You have something more confusing than a Die I & 2 or two Die I
The numerals are totally different.
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- The serif on the 1
- The foot and top of the 1
- The different shape of the d's
After looking at 1000's of fakes and forgeries, one gets used to spotting things.
Unfortunately, the only area I never really looked at is Oceania so I cannot comment further.


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Pooh
04 Jul 2019
06:33:37pm
re: Kangaroo one penny stamp

Thankyou for the information I didn't realised the numerals 1 were different. It is good finding out different things about stamps from other people over the world. We will probably not find out why the 1's are different but Thankyou

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