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Europe/Germany : Help with german stamp

 

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Pooh

09 Jun 2019
08:25:02pm
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Help with this stamp please I can see the perfins were done after cancellation
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Calstamp

09 Jun 2019
08:29:30pm
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Pooh...

What leads you to conclude the perfins were made after the cancellation was applied?

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Pooh

09 Jun 2019
08:36:04pm
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I'm only guessing but to me it looks like it was done after but I'm only learning so more then not I'm probably wrong but could you please give me some information about this stamp please

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Calstamp

09 Jun 2019
10:01:39pm
re: Help with german stamp


Looks to be Scott 328.

Issued in 1923. A stamp of modest catalogue value.

Perforation 13. Watermark 126 (network).

The copy you have has been through the “ringer”.

Believe this is the first set to be issued following the period of hyper-inflation. Perhaps a Germany “expert” will weigh in.

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Pooh

09 Jun 2019
10:43:04pm
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Thankyou This stamp came with other stamps It doesn't worry me if it is value or not but I don't have a Scott book. Is there somewhere on the internet I can find out more about this stamp please

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Pooh

09 Jun 2019
11:08:59pm
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Image Not Found Some more stamps I need help with please What is the name of the bottom stamp please??

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Pooh

09 Jun 2019
11:23:53pm
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Image Not Found These are the last of the stamps I would like some information about. Could someone please tell me why some German stamps are more valuable cancelled then mint as I thought it would be the other way around Thankyou

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michael78651

09 Jun 2019
11:40:29pm
re: Help with german stamp

"Could someone please tell me why some German stamps are more valuable cancelled then mint"



You will find this in many countries where some stamps are worth more used than mint. This can happen where not many of the stamps were not used for postage, with more mint stamps surviving. Some countries use the postage stamps for revenue purposes as well. Some of the higher face value stamps in this situation may have been used more for revenue purposes (see Malaya for examples) than for postage. Another example would be where a stamp was issued, many mint stamps sold, and then the stamp was withdrawn from sale due to an error in design or printing. The mint stamps would be held by collectors with very few seeing postal use. There are other reasons, I'm sure, but those come to mind right now.
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Pooh

09 Jun 2019
11:43:37pm
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Could you please tell me the names of these stamps and is there alot of these stamps around

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michael78651

09 Jun 2019
11:54:49pm
re: Help with german stamp

The easy question to answer is to say that, yes, the five stamps you have posted the images for are common.

"Reichspost" and "Deutsche Reich" is how German stamps were identified until after World War II. After that, the stamps were identified with "Deutsche Bundespost" until 1995 when the stamps were inscribed with "Deutschland".

The 40pf and 20pf stamps were issued by Germany in 1952 and 1951 respectively (Scott #680 and #677).

The 20pf stamp beneath them was issued by Germany in 1889 (Scott #49).

The 70pf brown stamp is an official stamp issued by the German Democratic Republic (East Germany). It appears in the image that there are no vertical lines in the background of the emblem. That would make it German Democratic Republic #O16.

The 40h lake-colored stamp is from Austria. Issued in 1920, it is Scott #213.

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nlroberts1961

12,8 cm Kanone 43 L/55 in blueprints only

12 Jun 2019
07:43:35am
re: Help with german stamp

The reason the stamps are valued higher used is because there were a lot of mint ones that were never sold for use as postage and were then marketed to collectors. The used values you see in a catalog are for postally used copies. A lot of the remaindered mint ones were cancelled just to imitate postally used ones (cancelled to order or CTO) - they are valued the same as the mint ones. In the case of germany in particular many of the artifical cancels were done with authentic cancelling devices and so it can be difficult to distinguish true postally used copies (for the non-expert) unless they are on a cover.

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14 Jun 2019
03:19:41pm
re: Help with german stamp

Hi
Could you please tell us what the perfin pattern is? To me it looks like "J.L L. / H (?)V

Thank you

Chimo

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rjan
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14 Jun 2019
03:48:28pm
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The bottom stamp is named Wilbur.

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Pooh

09 Jun 2019
08:25:02pm

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Help with this stamp please I can see the perfins were done after cancellation

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Calstamp

09 Jun 2019
08:29:30pm

re: Help with german stamp


Pooh...

What leads you to conclude the perfins were made after the cancellation was applied?

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Pooh

09 Jun 2019
08:36:04pm

re: Help with german stamp

I'm only guessing but to me it looks like it was done after but I'm only learning so more then not I'm probably wrong but could you please give me some information about this stamp please

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Calstamp

09 Jun 2019
10:01:39pm

re: Help with german stamp


Looks to be Scott 328.

Issued in 1923. A stamp of modest catalogue value.

Perforation 13. Watermark 126 (network).

The copy you have has been through the “ringer”.

Believe this is the first set to be issued following the period of hyper-inflation. Perhaps a Germany “expert” will weigh in.

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Pooh

09 Jun 2019
10:43:04pm

re: Help with german stamp

Thankyou This stamp came with other stamps It doesn't worry me if it is value or not but I don't have a Scott book. Is there somewhere on the internet I can find out more about this stamp please

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Pooh

09 Jun 2019
11:08:59pm

re: Help with german stamp

Image Not Found Some more stamps I need help with please What is the name of the bottom stamp please??

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Pooh

09 Jun 2019
11:23:53pm

re: Help with german stamp

Image Not Found These are the last of the stamps I would like some information about. Could someone please tell me why some German stamps are more valuable cancelled then mint as I thought it would be the other way around Thankyou

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michael78651

09 Jun 2019
11:40:29pm

re: Help with german stamp

"Could someone please tell me why some German stamps are more valuable cancelled then mint"



You will find this in many countries where some stamps are worth more used than mint. This can happen where not many of the stamps were not used for postage, with more mint stamps surviving. Some countries use the postage stamps for revenue purposes as well. Some of the higher face value stamps in this situation may have been used more for revenue purposes (see Malaya for examples) than for postage. Another example would be where a stamp was issued, many mint stamps sold, and then the stamp was withdrawn from sale due to an error in design or printing. The mint stamps would be held by collectors with very few seeing postal use. There are other reasons, I'm sure, but those come to mind right now.
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Pooh

09 Jun 2019
11:43:37pm

re: Help with german stamp

Could you please tell me the names of these stamps and is there alot of these stamps around

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michael78651

09 Jun 2019
11:54:49pm

re: Help with german stamp

The easy question to answer is to say that, yes, the five stamps you have posted the images for are common.

"Reichspost" and "Deutsche Reich" is how German stamps were identified until after World War II. After that, the stamps were identified with "Deutsche Bundespost" until 1995 when the stamps were inscribed with "Deutschland".

The 40pf and 20pf stamps were issued by Germany in 1952 and 1951 respectively (Scott #680 and #677).

The 20pf stamp beneath them was issued by Germany in 1889 (Scott #49).

The 70pf brown stamp is an official stamp issued by the German Democratic Republic (East Germany). It appears in the image that there are no vertical lines in the background of the emblem. That would make it German Democratic Republic #O16.

The 40h lake-colored stamp is from Austria. Issued in 1920, it is Scott #213.

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nlroberts1961

12,8 cm Kanone 43 L/55 in blueprints only

12 Jun 2019
07:43:35am

re: Help with german stamp

The reason the stamps are valued higher used is because there were a lot of mint ones that were never sold for use as postage and were then marketed to collectors. The used values you see in a catalog are for postally used copies. A lot of the remaindered mint ones were cancelled just to imitate postally used ones (cancelled to order or CTO) - they are valued the same as the mint ones. In the case of germany in particular many of the artifical cancels were done with authentic cancelling devices and so it can be difficult to distinguish true postally used copies (for the non-expert) unless they are on a cover.

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Bujutsu

14 Jun 2019
03:19:41pm

re: Help with german stamp

Hi
Could you please tell us what the perfin pattern is? To me it looks like "J.L L. / H (?)V

Thank you

Chimo

Bujutsu

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rjan

14 Jun 2019
03:48:28pm

re: Help with german stamp

The bottom stamp is named Wilbur.

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