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United States/Stamps : Davy Crocket possible plate flaw? (Scott # 1330)

 

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oldtriguy1960
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03 Jun 2019
01:15:24am
All,

I noticed a small line extending from the rifle muzzle on a MNH example of the Davy Crocket stamp. Wasn't sure if it was just a freak line so checked the other 7 copies I have of this stamp. I was surprised to find another one with the line extending from the muzzle.
Since I see it on two different stamps (one MNH and one used) I'm thinking it might be a plate flaw. Can anyone tell me if this is a known flaw? Would any of you out there with this stamp care to check and see if there are other examples in existence? I'm thinking that if I had 2 out of 8 with this anomaly, then it should be quite common.
The anomaly on the used stamp is fainter and harder to see in the scan but is easily seen in person. The used stamp is whole, just cropped for posting here. I'm afraid my scanner only goes to 600 DPI.
Will try to add a close up of just the muzzles.

Thanks in advance for any input.

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Well, that's about the best my scanner can do. I'm eager to hear from others...

Dave N.

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03 Jun 2019
10:23:39am

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My guess is that the registrations on the press weren't line up, something very common on those days.
Without seeing the full stamp in question, I can tell you that if you look at the bottom tip of the rifle stock it is also below the leaves instead of fairly flush with them like it shows on the top stamp. This phenomenon is so common that I have some stamps that seems like you would have to use 3D glasses to see the stamp correctly.

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petert4522

08 Jun 2019
08:57:51pm
re: Davy Crocket possible plate flaw? (Scott # 1330)

Dave, it looks like a "doctor blade" line to me. The "doctor blade" takes excess ink from rollers etc. I don't believe it to be a plate flaw but rather an EFO

Peter

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09 Jun 2019
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re: Davy Crocket possible plate flaw? (Scott # 1330)

It can't be a misregistration or all printing of one color would be misregistered. I have never heard of the "doctor blate" but it makes sense to me.

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oldtriguy1960
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09 Jun 2019
08:17:54pm
re: Davy Crocket possible plate flaw? (Scott # 1330)

Thanks for the input Peter.
Was hoping that some experts would share some opinions. I think an EFO is still a good find.
Still curious if anyone else has any like this.

Dave N

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10 Jun 2019
01:47:06pm

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it is a bad registration indeed, the black color is out of position when compared with green and yellow.
In my early 20s I worked at a printing shop one summer and that's the reason that I don't believe on EFOs.
We never printed stamps but coupons that look very much like them and we through away early runs due to bad registration alignments, have they been stamps I would have tons of EFOs. now.

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oldtriguy1960

03 Jun 2019
01:15:24am

All,

I noticed a small line extending from the rifle muzzle on a MNH example of the Davy Crocket stamp. Wasn't sure if it was just a freak line so checked the other 7 copies I have of this stamp. I was surprised to find another one with the line extending from the muzzle.
Since I see it on two different stamps (one MNH and one used) I'm thinking it might be a plate flaw. Can anyone tell me if this is a known flaw? Would any of you out there with this stamp care to check and see if there are other examples in existence? I'm thinking that if I had 2 out of 8 with this anomaly, then it should be quite common.
The anomaly on the used stamp is fainter and harder to see in the scan but is easily seen in person. The used stamp is whole, just cropped for posting here. I'm afraid my scanner only goes to 600 DPI.
Will try to add a close up of just the muzzles.

Thanks in advance for any input.

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Well, that's about the best my scanner can do. I'm eager to hear from others...

Dave N.

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03 Jun 2019
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re: Davy Crocket possible plate flaw? (Scott # 1330)

My guess is that the registrations on the press weren't line up, something very common on those days.
Without seeing the full stamp in question, I can tell you that if you look at the bottom tip of the rifle stock it is also below the leaves instead of fairly flush with them like it shows on the top stamp. This phenomenon is so common that I have some stamps that seems like you would have to use 3D glasses to see the stamp correctly.

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petert4522

08 Jun 2019
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re: Davy Crocket possible plate flaw? (Scott # 1330)

Dave, it looks like a "doctor blade" line to me. The "doctor blade" takes excess ink from rollers etc. I don't believe it to be a plate flaw but rather an EFO

Peter

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09 Jun 2019
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re: Davy Crocket possible plate flaw? (Scott # 1330)

It can't be a misregistration or all printing of one color would be misregistered. I have never heard of the "doctor blate" but it makes sense to me.

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09 Jun 2019
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re: Davy Crocket possible plate flaw? (Scott # 1330)

Thanks for the input Peter.
Was hoping that some experts would share some opinions. I think an EFO is still a good find.
Still curious if anyone else has any like this.

Dave N

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10 Jun 2019
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re: Davy Crocket possible plate flaw? (Scott # 1330)

it is a bad registration indeed, the black color is out of position when compared with green and yellow.
In my early 20s I worked at a printing shop one summer and that's the reason that I don't believe on EFOs.
We never printed stamps but coupons that look very much like them and we through away early runs due to bad registration alignments, have they been stamps I would have tons of EFOs. now.

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