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Oceania/Australia : AUSTRALIA CHRISTMAS 1969

 

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Horamakhet
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09 Apr 2019
06:20:30pm
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Hi to all

I was wondering, if the ACSC of the later QEII mentions a progressive colour change in the 5 cent Christmas 1969

I am aware that there is one that has missing colour, and is very rare.

Starting with the top pair, it has a darker cloth that the Madonna is sitting on, and also the frame around the Madonna and Child, then with the next two pairs, the colour get progressively lighter, and even the blue background is lighter.

Where they printed on different papers, hence the colour being different
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09 Apr 2019
07:21:48pm
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Hi Horamakhet

There are two types of paper, coated and uncoated white paper, the stamps you are showing are used and off paper, which means that soaking can fade the ink, as well as exposure to light.

I think you have a few unused stamps there unless the cancellation is very light, place a UV light over the stamps, if the UV is brownish it is uncoated. Only one 5c uncoated paper stamp had been reported used (without brighteners), so they are scarce.

In the 2015 catalogue (no newer issue has been published yet) the catalogue value is $100 in used condition.

Rob

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Horamakhet
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09 Apr 2019
08:15:13pm
re: AUSTRALIA CHRISTMAS 1969

Hi Rob

Thanks for that,yes they are all used copies.I will put them under a UV light to see what reaction they give.
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Horamakhet
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10 Apr 2019
01:07:25am
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HI Rob

Under UV they look a bright white ( Christmas 1969)

One other question, I was given a lot of CTO stamps, now even though they still have the gum. How do assess them.

To me they are used stamps, and should be priced as such, but they have not been used on covers.

So do you consider the used catalogue value, or do they fit into a class of their own, or are they curiosity value only

Hard one

Horamakhet

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10 Apr 2019
02:13:44am
re: AUSTRALIA CHRISTMAS 1969

Hi Horamakhet

That’s a tricky question, even though a CTO is used, it isn’t commercially used and the section of the ACSC that prices used stamps is for commercially used stamps only, and as the CTO never officially was used (no commercial cancellation), the ACSC does not list them.

Though you will find a rare few stamps with the CTO mentioned.

Rob

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DaveSheridan
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10 Apr 2019
02:25:20am
re: AUSTRALIA CHRISTMAS 1969

The ACSC prices CTO's up to 1966 I think (I don't have the QEII decimal catalogue)

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10 Apr 2019
06:04:06am
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Hi Dave

You are correct, it also shows a few C.T.O. prices in the first Decimal QEII catalogue (1966-1975). But not many are shown on the pre-decimal and decimal catalogues.

Rob

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10 Apr 2019
06:07:00am
re: AUSTRALIA CHRISTMAS 1969

Hi Horamakhet

If the UV is white then you have the regular stamp and most likely the different shades were caused by soaking and/or light.

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09 Apr 2019
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Hi to all

I was wondering, if the ACSC of the later QEII mentions a progressive colour change in the 5 cent Christmas 1969

I am aware that there is one that has missing colour, and is very rare.

Starting with the top pair, it has a darker cloth that the Madonna is sitting on, and also the frame around the Madonna and Child, then with the next two pairs, the colour get progressively lighter, and even the blue background is lighter.

Where they printed on different papers, hence the colour being different

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09 Apr 2019
07:21:48pm

re: AUSTRALIA CHRISTMAS 1969

Hi Horamakhet

There are two types of paper, coated and uncoated white paper, the stamps you are showing are used and off paper, which means that soaking can fade the ink, as well as exposure to light.

I think you have a few unused stamps there unless the cancellation is very light, place a UV light over the stamps, if the UV is brownish it is uncoated. Only one 5c uncoated paper stamp had been reported used (without brighteners), so they are scarce.

In the 2015 catalogue (no newer issue has been published yet) the catalogue value is $100 in used condition.

Rob

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09 Apr 2019
08:15:13pm

re: AUSTRALIA CHRISTMAS 1969

Hi Rob

Thanks for that,yes they are all used copies.I will put them under a UV light to see what reaction they give.
Regards

Horamakhet


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Horamakhet

10 Apr 2019
01:07:25am

re: AUSTRALIA CHRISTMAS 1969

HI Rob

Under UV they look a bright white ( Christmas 1969)

One other question, I was given a lot of CTO stamps, now even though they still have the gum. How do assess them.

To me they are used stamps, and should be priced as such, but they have not been used on covers.

So do you consider the used catalogue value, or do they fit into a class of their own, or are they curiosity value only

Hard one

Horamakhet

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Rob1956

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10 Apr 2019
02:13:44am

re: AUSTRALIA CHRISTMAS 1969

Hi Horamakhet

That’s a tricky question, even though a CTO is used, it isn’t commercially used and the section of the ACSC that prices used stamps is for commercially used stamps only, and as the CTO never officially was used (no commercial cancellation), the ACSC does not list them.

Though you will find a rare few stamps with the CTO mentioned.

Rob

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10 Apr 2019
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re: AUSTRALIA CHRISTMAS 1969

The ACSC prices CTO's up to 1966 I think (I don't have the QEII decimal catalogue)

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10 Apr 2019
06:04:06am

re: AUSTRALIA CHRISTMAS 1969

Hi Dave

You are correct, it also shows a few C.T.O. prices in the first Decimal QEII catalogue (1966-1975). But not many are shown on the pre-decimal and decimal catalogues.

Rob

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10 Apr 2019
06:07:00am

re: AUSTRALIA CHRISTMAS 1969

Hi Horamakhet

If the UV is white then you have the regular stamp and most likely the different shades were caused by soaking and/or light.

Rob

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