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larsdog
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14 Mar 2019
12:53:17am
Here is my first cut at an expanded Smithsonian "One For Every Country" Collection.

REMEMBER THE RULES:
1. No Offices Abroad, Local Stamps, or Occupation stamps. Those go in last section.
2. All dates are stamp issuing dates (although Smithsonian was quite inconsistent, I tried to clean that up).
3. This is MY example of an expansion, for your consideration and comment. You may decide to go a totally different route. That's OK, and please tell us why.

North and South America - We covered this once before, but after working with Europe I decided to go back and take another look and there are a lot of changes to the Caribbean. Let's start with North America first:

CANADA

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Changed Canada from "1851-Present" to "1868-Present" since first Dominion stamps not issued until 1868 (Canada #21). NOTE: Some may say it should be 1867-Present for Dominion of Canada, but in that case USA on the next page should begin 1776 or 1787 or 1789 (depending on your definition) instead of 1847 when the first stamp was issued.

Added space for British Province of Canada - pre-Dominion Ontario and Quebec (Canada #1-20).

Added a space for United Crown Colony of British Columbia and Vancouver Island.

Re-ordered entries to reflect order of entry into Dominion of Canada (ON/QC/NB/NS, BC, PEI, NL).

MEXICO

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Added note to see page 125 for French Occupation. If this stamp was not already in the "Other Entities" section, I would have added it here. Rather ironic that CSA, recognized by almost no other country, was considered a precedent country, while Maximilian's reign in Mexico, invited by Mexican monarchists, was considered an occupation. Get ready for many such questionable calls!

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nigelc
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14 Mar 2019
08:52:05am
re: A stamp for every country (Americas)

Hi Lars,

I'm keeping out of the Mexican Empire question!

However, I would include Bermuda here.

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rrraphy
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14 Mar 2019
12:47:43pm
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I don't understand why Greenland is here? I guess the key question in your maps, is cultural/political vs purely geographical boundaries. When it is not clear and when in doubt, I would go by the first criteria (see my comments on Cyprus as well).

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"Though physiographically a part of the continent of North America, Greenland has been politically and culturally associated with Europe (specifically Norway and Denmark, the colonial powers, as well as the nearby island of Iceland) for more than a millennium.
Sovereign state: Kingdom of Denmark
Capital and largest city: Nuuk; 64°10?N 51°4...
Religion: Church of Denm"





rrr...

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larsdog
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14 Mar 2019
07:10:02pm
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"I would include Bermuda here"



Well of COURSE Bermuda should go here! I caught that Smithsonian had Guatemala in the Caribbean, but I missed that they had Bermuda there, too. That should be fixed as well. Good catch.

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"I don't understand why Greenland is here"



I tend to lean your direction, and was VERY close to moving Cyprus, as well, but decided to stay with the Smithsonian use of geography instead of culture/politics. I can see a valid argument either way. Everyone will need to decide for themselves if they tackle this, or a similar, project. You may be more pleased with what I decided on Asia/Oceania (or maybe not).

Great inputs!

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At least I got Guatemala moved here from the Caribbean!

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I added one more page to show where Bermuda was hiding out. There is now a pencil notation on that page to move Bermuda to North America with Canada and the US.

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15 Mar 2019
10:07:23pm
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Here I try to capture just a sample of the West Indies Federation stamps and list the countries that were a part of the Federation. There is also a Leeward Islands stamp shown. I used stamps from each country that were NOT in the range of the Leeward Islands or the West Indies Federation. Even though the Federation tried to have a common government, they seemed to keep their local currency.

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nigelc
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19 Mar 2019
02:57:38pm
re: A stamp for every country (Americas)

Hi Lars,

That's a great display of the Caribbean. Happy

I have just a few comments so far:


Antigua & Barbuda:

I suggest you include Barbuda as a predecessor.


Caribbean Netherlands:

When the postal operator changed in 2014 they started issuing separate stamps for the three islands of Bonaire, Saba and St Eustatius but I suggest they can be ignored here.

The stamps I've seen are still inscribed "Caribisch Nederland" along with the island name.


Grenada:

I suggest you include Grenadines of Grenada as a predecessor.


St Vincent:

I suggest you include Grenadines of St Vincent as a predecessor but ignore Bequia etc.


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larsdog
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19 Mar 2019
09:44:21pm
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Barbuda was not included by Smithsonian and I determined it to be a Local Stamp. I actually have a Barbuda stamp, and I plan to add another page to the Local section of BOB including that stamp, but I'd say that is a local stamp.

Grenadines are local stamps. I don't even plan to include them on my new Local Stamps page.

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DaveSheridan
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19 Mar 2019
10:32:41pm
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I'm a little confused. The Grenadines and Barbuda are most definitely not local stamps.

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larsdog
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19 Mar 2019
10:38:33pm
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"The Grenadines and Barbuda are most definitely not local stamps."



Well then this warrants more research! Smithsonian didn't have Barbuda or either Grenadines in their pages, and I couldn't find where they were independent entities. Is there somewhere that I can learn more?

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DaveSheridan
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20 Mar 2019
09:44:56pm
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I don't know what criteria Smithsonian uses, and I haven't followed the discussion closely enough to understand the scope and goal of your work, but these notes from the SG catalogue may be of use.

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All issues from these areas are valid for international postage.

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larsdog
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20 Mar 2019
11:34:14pm
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I think the problem is the term "local stamp" is misleading. The best example in the U.S. would be the Kansas/Nebraska issues. Stamps were issued just for sale in Kansas and Nebraska, but there was no doubt those were US stamps valid for postage anywhere in the world. China did something similar for currency control. A local stamp doesn't mean it's only used for local service. A local stamp means it's only available (over the counter) in certain areas, but is good for any service the equivalent national stamp is good for.

Unless Barbuda or the Grenadines of Grenada or St. Vincent were stand-alone entities in their stamp issuing history - and that means separate colony, associated state, kingdom, or republic, the stamps they issue would be considered local stamps for Antigua or St. Vincent.

I hope I got that right!

Lars

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DaveSheridan
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21 Mar 2019
01:38:46am
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Lost in translation! In non-US English, a local stamp is a stamp not sanctioned by the national issuing authority, or a stamp that is only valid for use in a specific local area.

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