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larsdog
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14 Mar 2019
12:32:36am
Here is my first cut at an expanded Smithsonian "One For Every Country" Collection.

REMEMBER THE RULES:
1. No Offices Abroad, Local Stamps, or Occupation stamps. Those go in last section.
2. All dates are stamp issuing dates (although Smithsonian was quite inconsistent, I tried to clean that up).
3. This is MY example of an expansion, for your consideration and comment. You may decide to go a totally different route. That's OK, and please tell us why.

For some strange reason, Smithsonian put Mongolia in Southern Asia . I fixed that, plus a few other oddities, in my view:

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14 Mar 2019
07:52:47pm
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nigelc
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15 Mar 2019
10:41:32am
re: A stamp for every country (Asia)

Hi Lars,

India:

I think there's a good case for adding Sind as a predecessor but I realise the stamps are rare and expensive.

I would also add the following feudatory states:

- Dungarpur stamps issued 1933-1946, in use until 1948.

- Shahpura stamps issued 1914-1947, in use until 1948.

I suggest either splitting Indore into Holkar and Indore to reflect the change of name on the stamps or just rename it as Indore (Holkar).

- Jammu & Kashmir

I suggest keeping Kashmir with the other stamps, i.e. alphabetically with Jammu.

I'm not sure you need both of the Jammu & Kashmir categories. Perhaps just combine the dates.

- Travancore

I would remove "Anchel" from the name. It just means post (or post office).


Nepal:

I would split Nepal into Kingdom and Republic.


Pakistan:

I would add as a predecessor the Indian feudatory state of Las Bela.


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16 Mar 2019
01:18:10pm
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"India:

I think there's a good case for adding Sind as a predecessor but I realise the stamps are rare and expensive."



I can't find Sind anywhere, not even in my S.G. Commonwealth (EDIT: If found a Sind province in Pakistan)

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I would also add the following feudatory states:

- Dungarpur stamps issued 1933-1946, in use until 1948.

- Shahpura stamps issued 1914-1947, in use until 1948."



I was wondering why Dungarpur and Las Bela were omitted by Smithsonian. (More on Las Bela later). I didn't know if they were overlooked, considered local stamps, or what. I couldn't find Shahpura in Scott Standard, but did find it in S.G. Commonwealth. I will dig into those some more and if anyone else has info on why those were omitted please let us know.

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"I suggest either splitting Indore into Holkar and Indore to reflect the change of name on the stamps or just rename it as Indore (Holkar)."



I penciled in your second option. I write changes on the actual pages in pencil and make the changes the next time I print that particular page.

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"I suggest keeping Kashmir with the other stamps, i.e. alphabetically with Jammu.

I'm not sure you need both of the Jammu & Kashmir categories. Perhaps just combine the dates.
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I have a note to see Jammu & Kashmir. I'm going to leave that one as is.

As far as Jammu and Kashmir splitting and rejoining, I'm really torn on how to deal with things like that. Anyone else have an opinion?

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"Travancore

I would remove "Anchel" from the name. It just means post (or post office)."



You're the second person to mention that. That's the way Smithsonian had it. I have changed it on my page.

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"Nepal:

I would split Nepal into Kingdom and Republic."



Well, rats! That was a fairly recent occurrence. Yup, I need a stamp after May 28, 2008 for the republic.

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"Pakistan:

I would add as a predecessor the Indian feudatory state of Las Bela."



You know, I actually did take a close look at Kashmir to see it it was currently controlled more by India or Pakistan, especially with recent events, but I didn't look at anything else. My SG Commonwealth shows Bahawalpur as a prior princely state under Pakistan. It doesn't have Las Bela, but my catalog covers 1840-1952 and Las Bela didn't join Pakistan until 1955. I agree that Las Bela belongs under Pakistan.

This touches on a point that affects other places, like Eastern Rumelia, Danzig, etc. Danzig was a part of Germany when the stamps were issued, but it is currently a part of Poland. Smithsonian put Danzig under Germany, but Nigel and I believe it belongs under Poland (I have it wrong currently, but have already made an annotation to make the change). I suppose it depends on how you look at things, but that viewpoint is going to play a role in a few other situations.

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16 Mar 2019
06:53:23pm
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One note I forgot to add regarding Korea. I thought it was interesting that Smithsonian carved out a slot for the US Administration of South Korea (1946-1948 - Scott #55-79) but not the Soviet Occupation of North Korea during that same time (Scott #1-13).

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18 Mar 2019
11:29:01pm
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19 Mar 2019
07:16:52am
re: A stamp for every country (Asia)

Hi Lars,

A few follow-up comments first on India:

India:

Oops, I'd forgotten that Sind is now in Pakistan. Thanks!

I don't believe that the state of Jammu and Kashmir ever separated politically so whether you keep the Kashmir issues with the others is just a matter of preference.


Cambodia:

Indo-China is a predecessor but if I had to choose I would have included it as a predecessor to Vietnam instead.

Cambodia was added to French Indo-China and then later removed again.


East Timor:

I would move Portuguese Timor from the Indonesia section to be a predecessor here.

East Timor has the same territory as the Portuguese colony.

You may wish to add UNTAET for the first modern East Timor stamps when under UN administration.


Indonesia:

I suggest adding Riau-Lingga as a predecessor (or include it in the Local section).

Another possibility is the South Moluccas for the 1950 overprint set.


Malaysia:

I would suggest adding three more predecessors:

- The Malaysian Postal Union issued postage dues for use across Malaya for many years.

- British Military Administration issued stamps for use across Malaya after the war before the creation of the Malayan Federation.

- Federal Territories (Kuala Lumpur, Putrajaya and Labuan) now have low value definitives in the same designs as the individual states.

I also suggest splitting two of the states by period to reflect the changes in form of government:

North Borneo

- North Borneo Company

- British Colony

Sarawak

- Brooke Rajas

- British Colony

- State of Malaysia


Philippines:

You may wish to add as a predecessor the Filipino Revolutionary Government (KKK) issues of 1898-89.


Thailand:

I suggest removing Bangkok to the BOB section assuming this is for the British Post Office issues.

However, I would suggest adding Siam as a predecessor in its place.


Vietnam:

You may wish to consider listing as predecessors the North Vietnam issues for both Tongking and Central Annam.

These were in use before the general North Vietnam issues.


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larsdog
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19 Mar 2019
11:32:31pm
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Nigel,

I only have time to address a few things before calling it a night:

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"Cambodia:

Indo-China is a predecessor but if I had to choose I would have included it as a predecessor to Vietnam instead.

Cambodia was added to French Indo-China and then later removed again."



I am using the same protocol as the Smithsonian pages. Place the stamp with the first successor alphabetically and add note to the others. So for Cambodia, Laos, and Vietnam, French Indo-China is a predecessor to all. The stamp is placed with Cambodia and a note is placed with Laos and Vietnam to see Cambodia. Not always ideal, I agree.

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"Vietnam:

You may wish to consider listing as predecessors the North Vietnam issues for both Tongking and Central Annam.

These were in use before the general North Vietnam issues."



Smithsonian had:

Vietnam
North Vietnam
South Vietnam
Viet Minh Issues

That's all.

I expanded it to:

Vietnam
North Vietnam
South Vietnam
State of Vietnam (1951-1954)
Viet Minh Issues

And then I moved Annam and Tonkin plus Cochin China from Cambodia to Vietnam. I get why Smithsonian put Indo-China as a precedent country to Cambodia, but Annam and Tonkin plus Cochin China were just wrong. So I changed them. So I have no problem making changes and adding things, but what you are describing sounds suspiciously like local stamps from a fledgling uprising. I would need more info to include those.





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20 Mar 2019
09:15:52am
re: A stamp for every country (Asia)

Hi Lars,

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"So I have no problem making changes and adding things, but what you are describing sounds suspiciously like local stamps from a fledgling uprising. I would need more info to include those. "



Yes, I agree.
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