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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Forever stamps used for international letters

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virgilp
13 Mar 2019
02:35:04pm
Can I use forever stamps to send a regular letter overseas as long as I make the shipping cost?
For example two forever stamps ($1.10) and 5c stamp? Thanks, Virgil
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Dakota
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13 Mar 2019
02:43:19pm

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re: Forever stamps used for international letters

I do this on a regular basis.

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13 Mar 2019
03:36:59pm
re: Forever stamps used for international letters

yes; perfectly legal

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rjan
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13 Mar 2019
05:05:03pm
re: Forever stamps used for international letters

I thought international regulations (UPU?) required denominations/values on international correspondence?

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13 Mar 2019
07:10:57pm
re: Forever stamps used for international letters

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"I thought international regulations (UPU?) required denominations/values on international correspondence?"



That would pose a problem for this:

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vinman
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13 Mar 2019
08:24:21pm
re: Forever stamps used for international letters

Virgil,
You might be thinking about the rate increase stamps with a letter on them, they can only be used for domestic mail.

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ikeyPikey
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13 Mar 2019
11:24:32pm
re: Forever stamps used for international letters

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If memory serves, during the first years of the 'forever' stamps they were not valid for use on international mail.

Then, that changed.

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Tom in Exton, PA
13 Mar 2019
11:27:38pm
re: Forever stamps used for international letters

I've even received a domestic mail package with the International Forever stamp on it!

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michael78651
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14 Mar 2019
02:37:46am
re: Forever stamps used for international letters

The International Forever stamp is valid for use on domestic mail.

Ikey, I believe you're correct.

The comment on the lettered rate change stamps is also correct, but I have used them on international mail, and the post office accepted it. I can't say for sure if the post office is tolerating such usage, or the ban was lifted for those as well.

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virgilp
14 Mar 2019
08:51:15am
re: Forever stamps used for international letters

Thanks everybody for your kind reply. Virgil

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14 Mar 2019
12:07:40pm
re: Forever stamps used for international letters

we're getting "non-denominated" (ND) and "forever" (F) stamps mixed up. Fs are NDs, but not all NDs are Fs.

In the early days of US NDs (for rate hikes), they were NOT valid for international mail; later iterations, probably around (22c) WERE valid.

All F stamps are valid on domestic and foreign mail.

Now, good luck finding someone who works at the PO to tell you the values these NDs. Some change with the rates; others are fixed.

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14 Mar 2019
10:28:32pm
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"Now, good luck finding someone who works at the PO to tell you the values these NDs."



I had a decorated cover with a bunch of NDs and took in a copy of relevant album pages "just in case" but my local postie slid open the bottom drawer and pulled out a cheat sheet that included images of all NDs all the way back to "A". I was impressed.

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jmh67
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15 Mar 2019
05:44:20am
re: Forever stamps used for international letters

Here is a list of the U.S. non-denominated stamps together with their face values:

https://alphabetilately.org/G2.html

And here are some album pages for them:

https://stamps.org/Portals/0/albums/Nondenominated.pdf

-jmh


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15 Mar 2019
04:07:33pm
re: Forever stamps used for international letters

Jan,

I understood the semis to be equivalent to a forever stamp, always paying the US first class rate. Is that not true?

David

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ikeyPikey
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15 Mar 2019
04:59:56pm
re: Forever stamps used for international letters

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"... but my local postie slid open the bottom drawer and pulled out a cheat sheet that included images of all NDs all the way back to "A". I was impressed ..."



Well, if that impressed you, get ready to be gob-smacked Laughing

What that clerk probably pulled out of that drawer was some version of:

USPS 604a Quick Service Guide
Basic Standards for All Mailing Services
Nondenominated Postage

http://pe.usps.com/cpim/ftp/manuals/qsg300/q604a.pdf ... the current version, as a PDF

https://pe.usps.com/QSG_Archive/NHTML/QSG_Archive_20161107/Q604a.htm ... a slightly older version, but as a web page, so's you can steal the pics

Meanwhile, the use of non-denominated stamps is covered in the USPS International Mailing Manual, Section 152.3 Stamps ... that page is available as a PDF from, uh, me.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey
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ikeyPikey
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20 Mar 2019
12:04:09am
re: Forever stamps used for international letters

Well, that took long enough!

I knew that I had the definitive work on this subject spinning around my hard disk - or living in infamy as a link in one of my hobby spreadsheets - but just try and find these things when you want to find them!

Non-denominated ā€œAā€ - ā€œGā€ Definitive Stamps on International Mail

by Tony Wawrukiewicz, Auxiliary Markings, Issue 32, October 2011

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"This article first appeared in the September 2011 volume of the U.S. Specialist. Since it appeared there, I have been able to acquire further examples of the more difficult to acquire usages and Rob Washburn has given me access to other examples of other more difficult to acquire usages."



Tony's essay was folded into his book, Insights into US Postal History, 1855-2016, available at:

http://pbbooks.com/markings.htm

https://classic.stamps.org/Publications

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey
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cougar
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21 Mar 2019
12:58:59am

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I get letters from the States franked with a single Forever stamp all the time. I imagine many Ebay sellers believe Canada is just another state.

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