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Try this link for some great info,
http://www.postalcensorship.com/ccsg/
Steve
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Thanks, Steve. There is a lot of general information on censorship on this side and I recommend it highly. However, there is not too much specifically on the US, or did I overlook it?
I think for the level of serious information that I desire, free and transient information on the internet may not be sufficient. I hope that someone knows of a handbook / catalog in this area.
I would like to see information on the actual operation of civil censorship, assignment of censor numbers to censorship office locations, times of operation, existing markings, closing strips etc., potentially rarity factors.
This is specialized literature and I am willing to pay for it if it is out there. I have been spending more money on philatelic information than on actual stamps or postal history items for quite a while now.
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Helbock created a censorship handbook for APOs; it includes some civilian censor material, but not much; its focus is primarily military, but the military, even in the pre-Rumsfeld era, civilians did military-related stuff. I included James Lee's listing (he's a reliable book seller, and i've not seen it discounted anywhere, although maybe MPHS has it discounted):
9201 Passed By Army Censor By Helbock, 2006, 256p, HB. $45.00
I am not sure it answers your question, but just in case.
this is different from his listing of WWII APO markings on cover, which is more a catalogue of values, rarities, and some unit dates and listings.
David
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Thank you very much, David.
I own Helbock's "Combat Infantry Mail." His new book "Passed by Army Censorship" is already part of my long-term acquisition plan. I have been turned off a little bit, though, by the apparent limitation to 1941-42 army censorship. Otherwise I would have bought it a long time ago. I cannot think of a reason why one would only partially cover WWII US military censorship and just simply draw a line in 1942. Especially, since the censor markings appear to be much more uniform in the later days of the war. Well, it does not really matter. Eventually I will get the book anyway, it interests me and there is nothing else out there. If there is some coverage of civil censorship, this may speed up the process -- if I can't find anything else that is more specific.
I also own a copy of the WWII APO postmark catalog you mention. By the way, the book is available online now on Jim Forte's website (one of the co-authors). So, no need to buy it anymore. Here is the link, if anyone wants to check it out:
http://www.postalhistory.com/Military/APO/index.htm
And, David, if your possession of the catalog indicates that you collect WWII military mail: I have a whole bunch of WWII soldiers mail for trading. I'd gladly trade these 1:1 for similar items.
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Arno,
the reason you state for his stopping in 1942 is exactly the reason he states: the uniformity of censor markings.
yes, I collect APO material. contact me privately at teisler@abct.org and we'll chat
and thanks for the heads up on the APO listing
David
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11:05:56pm
I am looking for a publication / reference book on US WWII civil censorship. Anyone knows of a handbook or other phialtelic reference? I do have a couple of covers that went through US censorship and would like to learn more about those.
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11:46:13am
re: US WWII civil censorship
Try this link for some great info,
http://www.postalcensorship.com/ccsg/
Steve
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01:13:58pm
re: US WWII civil censorship
Thanks, Steve. There is a lot of general information on censorship on this side and I recommend it highly. However, there is not too much specifically on the US, or did I overlook it?
I think for the level of serious information that I desire, free and transient information on the internet may not be sufficient. I hope that someone knows of a handbook / catalog in this area.
I would like to see information on the actual operation of civil censorship, assignment of censor numbers to censorship office locations, times of operation, existing markings, closing strips etc., potentially rarity factors.
This is specialized literature and I am willing to pay for it if it is out there. I have been spending more money on philatelic information than on actual stamps or postal history items for quite a while now.
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04:41:05pm
re: US WWII civil censorship
Helbock created a censorship handbook for APOs; it includes some civilian censor material, but not much; its focus is primarily military, but the military, even in the pre-Rumsfeld era, civilians did military-related stuff. I included James Lee's listing (he's a reliable book seller, and i've not seen it discounted anywhere, although maybe MPHS has it discounted):
9201 Passed By Army Censor By Helbock, 2006, 256p, HB. $45.00
I am not sure it answers your question, but just in case.
this is different from his listing of WWII APO markings on cover, which is more a catalogue of values, rarities, and some unit dates and listings.
David
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11:58:37pm
re: US WWII civil censorship
Thank you very much, David.
I own Helbock's "Combat Infantry Mail." His new book "Passed by Army Censorship" is already part of my long-term acquisition plan. I have been turned off a little bit, though, by the apparent limitation to 1941-42 army censorship. Otherwise I would have bought it a long time ago. I cannot think of a reason why one would only partially cover WWII US military censorship and just simply draw a line in 1942. Especially, since the censor markings appear to be much more uniform in the later days of the war. Well, it does not really matter. Eventually I will get the book anyway, it interests me and there is nothing else out there. If there is some coverage of civil censorship, this may speed up the process -- if I can't find anything else that is more specific.
I also own a copy of the WWII APO postmark catalog you mention. By the way, the book is available online now on Jim Forte's website (one of the co-authors). So, no need to buy it anymore. Here is the link, if anyone wants to check it out:
http://www.postalhistory.com/Military/APO/index.htm
And, David, if your possession of the catalog indicates that you collect WWII military mail: I have a whole bunch of WWII soldiers mail for trading. I'd gladly trade these 1:1 for similar items.
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10:33:51am
re: US WWII civil censorship
Arno,
the reason you state for his stopping in 1942 is exactly the reason he states: the uniformity of censor markings.
yes, I collect APO material. contact me privately at teisler@abct.org and we'll chat
and thanks for the heads up on the APO listing
David
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