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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : BUTTERFLIES FALSE ALGERIAN ISSUE WARNING

 

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foudutimbre
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31 Jan 2019
05:26:45am

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A friend to me sent me the butterflies mini-sheet scan that he got on a Switzerland merchant website.
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I confirm this mini-sheet is false and has never been issued by Algerian post office ministry.

I draw the attention of butterflies stamps collectors on this matter !!!!






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03 Feb 2019
10:41:24pm
re: BUTTERFLIES FALSE ALGERIAN ISSUE WARNING

Thanks for keeping us informed.

David
Ottawa, Canada

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05 Feb 2019
11:50:59pm
re: BUTTERFLIES FALSE ALGERIAN ISSUE WARNING

I wonder what will happen if you bought this MS and put the stamps on a letter to someone.
Would the postal workers in Algeria figure out this is not legitimate postage? Would be worth the try.

The "stamp" below looks like the real thing but is actually part of the salvage of the MS issued that year and has no value. I mailed 2 letter to myself with it and both arrived no problem. Just match the hatch.

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06 Feb 2019
05:30:56am

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re: BUTTERFLIES FALSE ALGERIAN ISSUE WARNING

Good idea, I have asked my Switzerland to buy it for me, if he did, I will proceed

thanks

Abderrahmane

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pigdoc

06 Feb 2019
11:13:19am
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I too, enjoy collecting "illegal mail" covers, and have made some (self-addressed) for myself.

You might be taking a risk, but I don't know if you could be extradited for any perceived crime!

As ikeypikey said:

"Having worked the US mail, decades ago, my guess is that this is a simple matter of benign neglect. Neglect is easy: the clerk applying the cancel, and the clerk sorting the mail, paid attention to the US address, and just didn't notice the stamp."



Maybe he'll weigh-in...

-Paul

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06 Feb 2019
08:25:13pm
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"extradited" and "crime" seem to be very strong words for what we do.
Real crime happens within the governments and affects millions of people and wildlife.

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06 Feb 2019
10:11:40pm
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Cougar:

I doubt very much that the RCMP and the Canada Post Security and Investigation Services are going to come to your home and arrest you. As for being "extradited", you did this in B.C. Where would you be extradited to? Saskatchewan?

I saw a dealer at ORAPEX, here in Ottawa, a few years ago, with a stack of letters mailed to the tax collection clerk of some town in the United States. They were all franked with cinderellas! Ha!

David in Ottawa, Ont.

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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..

04 Mar 2019
02:32:56am
re: BUTTERFLIES FALSE ALGERIAN ISSUE WARNING

" .... Real crime happens within the governments ...."

You've noticed that also ?

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".... You may think you understood what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you think you heard is not what I thought I meant. .... "
        

 

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foudutimbre

31 Jan 2019
05:26:45am

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A friend to me sent me the butterflies mini-sheet scan that he got on a Switzerland merchant website.
Image Not Found

I confirm this mini-sheet is false and has never been issued by Algerian post office ministry.

I draw the attention of butterflies stamps collectors on this matter !!!!






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DavidG

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03 Feb 2019
10:41:24pm

re: BUTTERFLIES FALSE ALGERIAN ISSUE WARNING

Thanks for keeping us informed.

David
Ottawa, Canada

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cougar

05 Feb 2019
11:50:59pm

re: BUTTERFLIES FALSE ALGERIAN ISSUE WARNING

I wonder what will happen if you bought this MS and put the stamps on a letter to someone.
Would the postal workers in Algeria figure out this is not legitimate postage? Would be worth the try.

The "stamp" below looks like the real thing but is actually part of the salvage of the MS issued that year and has no value. I mailed 2 letter to myself with it and both arrived no problem. Just match the hatch.

Image Not Found

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foudutimbre

06 Feb 2019
05:30:56am

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re: BUTTERFLIES FALSE ALGERIAN ISSUE WARNING

Good idea, I have asked my Switzerland to buy it for me, if he did, I will proceed

thanks

Abderrahmane

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pigdoc

06 Feb 2019
11:13:19am

re: BUTTERFLIES FALSE ALGERIAN ISSUE WARNING

I too, enjoy collecting "illegal mail" covers, and have made some (self-addressed) for myself.

You might be taking a risk, but I don't know if you could be extradited for any perceived crime!

As ikeypikey said:

"Having worked the US mail, decades ago, my guess is that this is a simple matter of benign neglect. Neglect is easy: the clerk applying the cancel, and the clerk sorting the mail, paid attention to the US address, and just didn't notice the stamp."



Maybe he'll weigh-in...

-Paul

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cougar

06 Feb 2019
08:25:13pm

re: BUTTERFLIES FALSE ALGERIAN ISSUE WARNING

"extradited" and "crime" seem to be very strong words for what we do.
Real crime happens within the governments and affects millions of people and wildlife.

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DavidG

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06 Feb 2019
10:11:40pm

re: BUTTERFLIES FALSE ALGERIAN ISSUE WARNING

Cougar:

I doubt very much that the RCMP and the Canada Post Security and Investigation Services are going to come to your home and arrest you. As for being "extradited", you did this in B.C. Where would you be extradited to? Saskatchewan?

I saw a dealer at ORAPEX, here in Ottawa, a few years ago, with a stack of letters mailed to the tax collection clerk of some town in the United States. They were all franked with cinderellas! Ha!

David in Ottawa, Ont.

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"President, The Society for Costa Rica Collectors"

Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
04 Mar 2019
02:32:56am

re: BUTTERFLIES FALSE ALGERIAN ISSUE WARNING

" .... Real crime happens within the governments ...."

You've noticed that also ?

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".... You may think you understood what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you think you heard is not what I thought I meant. .... "
        

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