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ikeyPikey
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21 Jan 2019
09:43:03pm
Fonts That Fake Handwriting

Of peripheral concern to collectors of covers & postcards is whether/not the handwritten address/message was/not written by hand.

Shown below is an example of an address that is easily detected as not-so-handwritten because the street name is repeated in the city name.

Q/ Does anybody else set aside these Fonts That Fake Handwriting ?

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

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Bonus! This cover bore Mailer's Postmark Permit #121 from zip 24506:

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Linus
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21 Jan 2019
11:53:30pm
re: Fonts That Fake Handwriting

I save my daily junk mail franked with stamps, but I just throw them in a box, ikey.

I got one similar to that awhile back that was fake printed on a light blue envelope with a real looking return address label, with a real person's name, like a real person would put on a greeting card. I open it up, and it is a Direct TV ad in the form of a greeting card. Fake handwriting, fake mail, fake phone calls, fake news on TV, the whole world is going fake.

Linus

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51Studebaker
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22 Jan 2019
03:58:15am
re: Fonts That Fake Handwriting

Hi ikey,

That is actual handwriting (albeit incredible handwriting).

When I digitally overlay the street 'Woodhaven' with the town 'Woodhaven' there are deltas especially towards the end of the word as shown here
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If you go back and visually compare the last letter in your image, you can see the difference in the 'n'. I assume that this person handwrites 'Woodhaven' a lot and muscle memory is coming into play here.

Also consider kerning, digital fonts have to follow rules about kerning. The ZIP code does not follow the kerning rules which would require the space between each character to be consistent. The space between the '1's has to be the same if it was a handwriting font.
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ikeyPikey
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22 Jan 2019
08:51:20am
re: Fonts That Fake Handwriting

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Q/ Do you mean to suggest that the sender was imitating a computer imitating a person?

Well-spotted, Don.

How appalling that anyone would laboriously hand-address junk mail.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey (who now feels bad about ignoring one dozen catalogs, driving the company to such desperate measures)

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michael78651

22 Jan 2019
10:30:36am
re: Fonts That Fake Handwriting

"How appalling that anyone would laboriously hand-address junk mail."



Send in requests for travel information, especially small towns, and the visitor's bureaus volunteers will send you information often addressed by hand.
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pigdoc

22 Jan 2019
10:54:56am
re: Fonts That Fake Handwriting

On another note, you guys probably already know this, but anyone can apply for a mailer's permit. You just fill out a small form with the postmaster, and you're all set. No charge.

I am holder of permit #3 at the Parkesburg, PA post office. What that gets me is the right to use special rate stamps (presorted, bulk rate, and the like) on my outgoing mail. I just have to write the permit number on the envelope somewhere. And, of course permitted mail has to be presented at the PO that issued the number.

Back when I was collecting mint plate number coils of all the new US releases, I would use up the surplus stamps with my permit number. Because, typically, the plate number is only every 25 or 40 or X stamps in a coil. I collected mint plate number strips of 5, with the plate number on the middle stamp. Gave up collecting new issues 10 or 15 years ago. I should probably sell all those mint plate number strips...and plate blocks.

-Paul

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22 Jan 2019
12:31:44pm
re: Fonts That Fake Handwriting

Just a short comment: A Mailer's Postmark Permit number and a Precanceled Stamp Permit are two different systems. A MPP allows one to cancel their mail and hand the letters to a postal clerk for dispatch. A Precancel permit allows one to use up their surplus "service inscribed" mint stamps on regular first class mail. I suppose one can use both on the same envelope.

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ikeyPikey
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22 Jan 2019
04:40:55pm
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"... Send in requests for travel information, especially small towns, and the visitor's bureaus volunteers will send you information often addressed by hand ..."



We differ, sir!

To be 'junk mail', as I understand the term, the individual piece of mail must be unsolicited.

Care should be taken with that word "unsolicited"; no fair claiming that, for example, a magazine subscription was solicited, but the renewal notice was not.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey (who once worked for a local Chamber of Commerce)
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michael78651

22 Jan 2019
04:43:14pm
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" A Precancel permit allows one to use up their surplus "service inscribed" mint stamps on regular first class mail."



Actually, you apply for either with the same USPS Form 3615. The post office has changed the name of the form over the years. There are different requirements for the type of permit that you request in the 3615.
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30 Mar 2019
02:56:36pm
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Well, okay, what about this one?

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21 Jan 2019
09:43:03pm

Fonts That Fake Handwriting

Of peripheral concern to collectors of covers & postcards is whether/not the handwritten address/message was/not written by hand.

Shown below is an example of an address that is easily detected as not-so-handwritten because the street name is repeated in the city name.

Q/ Does anybody else set aside these Fonts That Fake Handwriting ?

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

Image Not Found

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Linus

21 Jan 2019
11:53:30pm

re: Fonts That Fake Handwriting

I save my daily junk mail franked with stamps, but I just throw them in a box, ikey.

I got one similar to that awhile back that was fake printed on a light blue envelope with a real looking return address label, with a real person's name, like a real person would put on a greeting card. I open it up, and it is a Direct TV ad in the form of a greeting card. Fake handwriting, fake mail, fake phone calls, fake news on TV, the whole world is going fake.

Linus

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51Studebaker

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22 Jan 2019
03:58:15am

re: Fonts That Fake Handwriting

Hi ikey,

That is actual handwriting (albeit incredible handwriting).

When I digitally overlay the street 'Woodhaven' with the town 'Woodhaven' there are deltas especially towards the end of the word as shown here
Image Not Found

If you go back and visually compare the last letter in your image, you can see the difference in the 'n'. I assume that this person handwrites 'Woodhaven' a lot and muscle memory is coming into play here.

Also consider kerning, digital fonts have to follow rules about kerning. The ZIP code does not follow the kerning rules which would require the space between each character to be consistent. The space between the '1's has to be the same if it was a handwriting font.
Don

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ikeyPikey

22 Jan 2019
08:51:20am

re: Fonts That Fake Handwriting

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Q/ Do you mean to suggest that the sender was imitating a computer imitating a person?

Well-spotted, Don.

How appalling that anyone would laboriously hand-address junk mail.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey (who now feels bad about ignoring one dozen catalogs, driving the company to such desperate measures)

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michael78651

22 Jan 2019
10:30:36am

re: Fonts That Fake Handwriting

"How appalling that anyone would laboriously hand-address junk mail."



Send in requests for travel information, especially small towns, and the visitor's bureaus volunteers will send you information often addressed by hand.
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pigdoc

22 Jan 2019
10:54:56am

re: Fonts That Fake Handwriting

On another note, you guys probably already know this, but anyone can apply for a mailer's permit. You just fill out a small form with the postmaster, and you're all set. No charge.

I am holder of permit #3 at the Parkesburg, PA post office. What that gets me is the right to use special rate stamps (presorted, bulk rate, and the like) on my outgoing mail. I just have to write the permit number on the envelope somewhere. And, of course permitted mail has to be presented at the PO that issued the number.

Back when I was collecting mint plate number coils of all the new US releases, I would use up the surplus stamps with my permit number. Because, typically, the plate number is only every 25 or 40 or X stamps in a coil. I collected mint plate number strips of 5, with the plate number on the middle stamp. Gave up collecting new issues 10 or 15 years ago. I should probably sell all those mint plate number strips...and plate blocks.

-Paul

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22 Jan 2019
12:31:44pm

re: Fonts That Fake Handwriting

Just a short comment: A Mailer's Postmark Permit number and a Precanceled Stamp Permit are two different systems. A MPP allows one to cancel their mail and hand the letters to a postal clerk for dispatch. A Precancel permit allows one to use up their surplus "service inscribed" mint stamps on regular first class mail. I suppose one can use both on the same envelope.

Tad

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ikeyPikey

22 Jan 2019
04:40:55pm

re: Fonts That Fake Handwriting

"... Send in requests for travel information, especially small towns, and the visitor's bureaus volunteers will send you information often addressed by hand ..."



We differ, sir!

To be 'junk mail', as I understand the term, the individual piece of mail must be unsolicited.

Care should be taken with that word "unsolicited"; no fair claiming that, for example, a magazine subscription was solicited, but the renewal notice was not.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey (who once worked for a local Chamber of Commerce)
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michael78651

22 Jan 2019
04:43:14pm

re: Fonts That Fake Handwriting

" A Precancel permit allows one to use up their surplus "service inscribed" mint stamps on regular first class mail."



Actually, you apply for either with the same USPS Form 3615. The post office has changed the name of the form over the years. There are different requirements for the type of permit that you request in the 3615.
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30 Mar 2019
02:56:36pm

re: Fonts That Fake Handwriting

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Well, okay, what about this one?

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Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

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23 Apr 2019
08:57:30pm

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We have another winner!

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Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

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