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Why there is a locomotive image on the stamp is another enigma.
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VERY interesting!
Can you make out the date in the straight-line, dot-matrix New Orleans cancellation?
I would want to see a correlation between that date and the date in the Budapest cancellation, 11 06. 07. Otherwise, I might suspect that the sender put it on there as a novelty.
And, it seems to me that USPS-applied barcodes typically encode domestic destinations. 299 is the country code for Azerbaijan, a LONG way from Budapest!
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But, I would still presume that the culprit for the misdirection is the barcode. I've seen this before - mail misdirected because the operator typed in the wrong zipcode, causing an erroneous barcode to be applied.
-Paul
PS, the eastern terminus of the Orient Express is Budapest!
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Paul, thanks for shedding some light on this mystery.
The date on the Budapest cancellation would have no correlation to the date the letter was mailed on.
It was mailed December 31, 2018
Received by me on January 10, 2019
All indications are of a normal delivery, except the confusing bar code and the Budapest stamp on the back.
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Definitely, just having fun. I also have one.
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Hey Opa,
Very interesting!
Same sender?
-Paul
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Same sender. I would think it´s a cancel from a children's toy.
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Any chance the letter was routed through Budapest Georgia? Budapest is a small unincorporated community in Haralson County in the U.S. state of Georgia.
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Thanks Opa!
The mystery is solved. I had already started cutting the envelope to harvest the stamps. Now I can finish the job with no regrets.
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Robert, I just received from you the same type envelope. The stamp on the back seems being applied by a Custom Border Officer (passport stamp). This is not a postal stamp. The date is: June 11, 2007, time 3.00 PM. It shows that the "person" left Budapest, Hungary by train.
There are two possibilities:
1. If it is real, it was applied on envelopes by the Officer at the request of the traveler on many envelopes at that time, or he changed the date on the device used for this purpose; for him/her it did not matter anyhow, being applied on a piece of paper and not on the passport;
2. If it is a "fake" it is very well executed. My guess is that it seems to be real and an Officer friend of the person did it.
Postal value: ZERO!
See the link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallery_of_passport_stamps_by_country_or_territory
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My guess is that the user pinched the stamping device as a souvenir when he was transiting Customs. Brave person, he, if that is the true story.
-Paul
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Interesting fact is that the envelopes stamped in 2007 "surfaced" in 2018! Somebody just kept them as souvenirs.
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Or, the sender just kept the cancelling device since then. We don't have a broad enough sample to know how long he's been using it to confound others.
Have you guys thought to, or been motivated to contact the sender to obtain his story?
I sometimes ping sellers to see if I can learn anything about provenance...
-Paul
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How does a letter mailed from the States to Canada get stamped in Budapest is beyond me. Despite the longer route, the letter made it to me in 10 days.
Why there is a locomotive image on the stamp is another enigma.
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VERY interesting!
Can you make out the date in the straight-line, dot-matrix New Orleans cancellation?
I would want to see a correlation between that date and the date in the Budapest cancellation, 11 06. 07. Otherwise, I might suspect that the sender put it on there as a novelty.
And, it seems to me that USPS-applied barcodes typically encode domestic destinations. 299 is the country code for Azerbaijan, a LONG way from Budapest!
USPS International Country Codes
But, I would still presume that the culprit for the misdirection is the barcode. I've seen this before - mail misdirected because the operator typed in the wrong zipcode, causing an erroneous barcode to be applied.
-Paul
PS, the eastern terminus of the Orient Express is Budapest!
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Paul, thanks for shedding some light on this mystery.
The date on the Budapest cancellation would have no correlation to the date the letter was mailed on.
It was mailed December 31, 2018
Received by me on January 10, 2019
All indications are of a normal delivery, except the confusing bar code and the Budapest stamp on the back.
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Definitely, just having fun. I also have one.
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12:45:29pm
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Hey Opa,
Very interesting!
Same sender?
-Paul
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Same sender. I would think it´s a cancel from a children's toy.
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Any chance the letter was routed through Budapest Georgia? Budapest is a small unincorporated community in Haralson County in the U.S. state of Georgia.
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Thanks Opa!
The mystery is solved. I had already started cutting the envelope to harvest the stamps. Now I can finish the job with no regrets.
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12:00:32pm
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Robert, I just received from you the same type envelope. The stamp on the back seems being applied by a Custom Border Officer (passport stamp). This is not a postal stamp. The date is: June 11, 2007, time 3.00 PM. It shows that the "person" left Budapest, Hungary by train.
There are two possibilities:
1. If it is real, it was applied on envelopes by the Officer at the request of the traveler on many envelopes at that time, or he changed the date on the device used for this purpose; for him/her it did not matter anyhow, being applied on a piece of paper and not on the passport;
2. If it is a "fake" it is very well executed. My guess is that it seems to be real and an Officer friend of the person did it.
Postal value: ZERO!
See the link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallery_of_passport_stamps_by_country_or_territory
(Modified by Moderator on 2019-01-12 14:50:51)
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11:47:48am
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My guess is that the user pinched the stamping device as a souvenir when he was transiting Customs. Brave person, he, if that is the true story.
-Paul
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12:37:32pm
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Interesting fact is that the envelopes stamped in 2007 "surfaced" in 2018! Somebody just kept them as souvenirs.
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05:58:38pm
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Or, the sender just kept the cancelling device since then. We don't have a broad enough sample to know how long he's been using it to confound others.
Have you guys thought to, or been motivated to contact the sender to obtain his story?
I sometimes ping sellers to see if I can learn anything about provenance...
-Paul
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