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pigdoc
29 Dec 2018
11:27:44am
I am an enthusiastic participant in any discussion of 19th century Caribbean postal history, so I'm cranking up another thread with this posting:
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It's my collection of the earliest series of the La Guaira-Puerto Cabello-St Thomas packet, which was initiated in July, 1864.

The top row are all genuine, the bottom row are all forgeries. There seem to be as many forgeries in the marketplace as genuine stamps. Perhaps the definitive reference for these stamps is The Private Ship Letter Stamps of the World, Part 1 The Caribbean by Ringstrom and Tester (copyright unknown). More than half the pages of this 160-page book are devoted to this one packet line, and there is a very comprehensive and descriptive listing of all the forgeries.

Let the party begin!
-Paul

PS, Show us your Lady McLeod!
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05 Feb 2019
05:43:30pm
re: Private Ship Letter Stamps: Caribbean

Here are the only 2 I have. I am under the impression they are genuine, as i have read that forgeries of the serpentine perforation issues are not known.
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05 Feb 2019
05:53:22pm
re: Private Ship Letter Stamps: Caribbean

Some helpful links

http://www.mostlyclassics.net/philatelic/StThomasEtcShipLocalStamps.pdf


http://www.jaysmith.com/Lists/Danish-West-Indies/Danish-West-Indies-Shipping-Company-Stamps-St.-Thomas-La-Guaira-Puerto-Cabello.html

Don

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pigdoc
06 Feb 2019
09:44:54am
re: Private Ship Letter Stamps: Caribbean

Thanks, Don, for the nice posting!

Again, in reference to the book I list at the top of this posting, it appears that your stamps are both from the local printings, done by Felix Rasco of Caracas rather than Waterlow of London. Rasco used two different perforations, including the saw tooth that your stamps have. There are design features that indicate that the Medio Real stamp is from Stone II, 1866. Stone II printings of the Dos Reales stamp have a prominent dot of color in the middle of the foresail, which seems to be missing from your stamp, although the cancellation possibly obscures this area, as it does the area around the tail of the Q, which is also an important distinguishing feature between Stones I and II.

Very nice used examples!

The red Medio Real and green Dos Reales stamps were used on mail from Venezuela to St Thomas. These were also printed in blue (1/2) and orange (2) for use on mail from St Thomas to Venezuela.

I did not see any reference to forgeries of the local printings. I will follow this posting later with some examples of variants of these stamps.

-Paul

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sheepshanks
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06 Feb 2019
11:28:46am
re: Private Ship Letter Stamps: Caribbean

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"There are design features that indicate that the Medio Real stamp is from Stone II, 1866"


Do the numerals in the corners change with the year of printing? As all of the stamps show the 1864 date.
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pigdoc
06 Feb 2019
05:32:15pm
re: Private Ship Letter Stamps: Caribbean

Thanks for your reply, sheepshanks!

Answer is "no". The 6 and 4 motifs (for 1864) are universal in this issue, regardless of the actual year of issue (September, 1866 for the Stone II printing of the Medio Real; January 1866 for the Dos Reales, Stone II), or the denomination.

About the only design feature that distinguishes Stone I from Stone II in the Medio Real issue is the presence or absence of the tail on the Q of "PAQUETE". For the Dos Reales issues, an additional feature is the dot in the middle of the foresail, present in the Stone II printings only. This gets more complicated however, as one researcher has asserted that at least four different stones for each value were used during the various printings. The reference I have does not provide enough detail to absolutely distinguish between these stones.

I find issues such as this one extremely compelling from a research perspective. Another such issue that readily comes to mind is the US Pony Express issues.

-Paul

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