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DannyS
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29 Nov 2018
09:21:45pm
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Could anyone tell me more on this Colombian airmail label? I take it that it comes from the 1940s as a similar label, (the aircraft is going in the opposite direction), is shown on a 1948 cover on eBay.

The tail of the plane looks somewhere in between a DC-2 and a DC-3, I'm going with a DC-3 for now.

I picked up a rather shabbier copy at the Bangkok Stamp Show yesterday for $10 which was probably over-paying, but I had never seen one before so I'm happy.
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29 Nov 2018
11:14:24pm
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It's probably supposed to be a DC-3. The History of Avianca page at Seatmaestro.com notes that Avianca bought 10 Boeing 247s and a DC-3 in 1940.

You're correct that the tail is like neither the tail of a DC-2 or a DC-3, nor is the nose anything like either a DC-2 or a DC-3. It looks more like the nose of the Boeing 307 Stratoliner. Let's just say that the artist was employing artistic license.

Here's are images of the DC-1/2 tail and the DC-3 tail:

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30 Nov 2018
05:57:08am
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Thanks Bob, I was going that way too. It will be the most colourful 'stamp' in my DC-3 collection anyway. I have a few other Cinderellas in the collection, but they are all period, i.e. 1940s.

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30 Nov 2018
12:47:14pm
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Danny's query inspired me to go ahead with a purchase I've been considering, a airmail cover posted by a Colombian diplomat in Japan to Colombia and franked with stamps including a complete set of Japan's first semi-postal stamps, B1-3, picturing a DC-2, built under license in Japan, flying over the Japanese Alps. It's a bit ratty, but the price was reasonable, and I've never seen the complete set of the semi-postal stamps on cover.

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As with so many stamps picturing aircraft, Scott is rather sloppy in their descriptions. According to the catalogue, the stamps picture a "plane" flying over the Japanese Alps. Elsewhere in the catalogue you'll find stamps featuring the DC-2 (and many other multi-engine aircraft), described as a "transport plane".

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30 Nov 2018
12:59:07pm
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Not to be pedantic - okay, precisely to be gloriously pedantic - it ain't no label, it ain't no cinderella ... it is an 'etiquette'.

In my own defense, please allow me to point-out that search results, both in-forum and out-there, will be more better when the correct term is searched.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

Recent IRL SMS dialogue:

Kid: Found the ear probe on Amazon Prime. Order it?

Dad: Otoscope.

Kid: Are you just being pedantic, or is that a yes?

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30 Nov 2018
01:10:24pm
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I was going to call it an etiquette, but I didn't want to be seen as pedantic.

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30 Nov 2018
01:42:26pm
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Excellent!

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01 Dec 2018
04:45:49am
re: Colombian airmail label

Ouch! I will now talk about airmail etiquettes and not airmail labels. Having said that does anyone have any information on when it was in use. It's certainly a lot more colourful than the usual blue ones.

Bob, one of those Japanese semi-postals features in a stamp-on-stamp from Palau in 1997.

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01 Dec 2018
01:13:42pm
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Hurray! It's in her blood!

Same daughter noticed that the MSNBC chiron was reporting that, in honor of one of my faves, President George Herbert Walker Bush, flags were flying half-staff.

Asked the chip off of the old block: "Isn't that supposed to be half-mast?"

NB: One always needs to evaluate Ngram evidence; half-staff would include usages relating to employment, while half-mast would include usages related to, duh, sailing.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey (who did not think to include half-pole)

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DannyS

29 Nov 2018
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Could anyone tell me more on this Colombian airmail label? I take it that it comes from the 1940s as a similar label, (the aircraft is going in the opposite direction), is shown on a 1948 cover on eBay.

The tail of the plane looks somewhere in between a DC-2 and a DC-3, I'm going with a DC-3 for now.

I picked up a rather shabbier copy at the Bangkok Stamp Show yesterday for $10 which was probably over-paying, but I had never seen one before so I'm happy.

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Bobstamp

29 Nov 2018
11:14:24pm

re: Colombian airmail label

It's probably supposed to be a DC-3. The History of Avianca page at Seatmaestro.com notes that Avianca bought 10 Boeing 247s and a DC-3 in 1940.

You're correct that the tail is like neither the tail of a DC-2 or a DC-3, nor is the nose anything like either a DC-2 or a DC-3. It looks more like the nose of the Boeing 307 Stratoliner. Let's just say that the artist was employing artistic license.

Here's are images of the DC-1/2 tail and the DC-3 tail:

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Bob

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DannyS

30 Nov 2018
05:57:08am

re: Colombian airmail label

Thanks Bob, I was going that way too. It will be the most colourful 'stamp' in my DC-3 collection anyway. I have a few other Cinderellas in the collection, but they are all period, i.e. 1940s.

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Bobstamp

30 Nov 2018
12:47:14pm

re: Colombian airmail label

Danny's query inspired me to go ahead with a purchase I've been considering, a airmail cover posted by a Colombian diplomat in Japan to Colombia and franked with stamps including a complete set of Japan's first semi-postal stamps, B1-3, picturing a DC-2, built under license in Japan, flying over the Japanese Alps. It's a bit ratty, but the price was reasonable, and I've never seen the complete set of the semi-postal stamps on cover.

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As with so many stamps picturing aircraft, Scott is rather sloppy in their descriptions. According to the catalogue, the stamps picture a "plane" flying over the Japanese Alps. Elsewhere in the catalogue you'll find stamps featuring the DC-2 (and many other multi-engine aircraft), described as a "transport plane".

Bob

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ikeyPikey

30 Nov 2018
12:59:07pm

re: Colombian airmail label

Not to be pedantic - okay, precisely to be gloriously pedantic - it ain't no label, it ain't no cinderella ... it is an 'etiquette'.

In my own defense, please allow me to point-out that search results, both in-forum and out-there, will be more better when the correct term is searched.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

Recent IRL SMS dialogue:

Kid: Found the ear probe on Amazon Prime. Order it?

Dad: Otoscope.

Kid: Are you just being pedantic, or is that a yes?

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Bobstamp

30 Nov 2018
01:10:24pm

re: Colombian airmail label

I was going to call it an etiquette, but I didn't want to be seen as pedantic.

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boB

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ikeyPikey

30 Nov 2018
01:42:26pm

re: Colombian airmail label

Excellent!

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DannyS

01 Dec 2018
04:45:49am

re: Colombian airmail label

Ouch! I will now talk about airmail etiquettes and not airmail labels. Having said that does anyone have any information on when it was in use. It's certainly a lot more colourful than the usual blue ones.

Bob, one of those Japanese semi-postals features in a stamp-on-stamp from Palau in 1997.

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ikeyPikey

01 Dec 2018
01:13:42pm

re: Colombian airmail label

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Hurray! It's in her blood!

Same daughter noticed that the MSNBC chiron was reporting that, in honor of one of my faves, President George Herbert Walker Bush, flags were flying half-staff.

Asked the chip off of the old block: "Isn't that supposed to be half-mast?"

NB: One always needs to evaluate Ngram evidence; half-staff would include usages relating to employment, while half-mast would include usages related to, duh, sailing.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey (who did not think to include half-pole)

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