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General Philatelic/Identify This? : Mystery Ecuador

 

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rrraphy
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27 Nov 2018
03:39:03am
I just cannot find it. Does anyone know what year (and if you have it, the Scott Cat #).
My eyes are getting tired looking for it without success. Thanks in advance. rrr...

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DaveSheridan
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27 Nov 2018
04:50:09am
re: Mystery Ecuador

Maybe an essay? It's a map of the Galapagos, but bears no relation to the 1936 Darwin set

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nigelc
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27 Nov 2018
06:08:06am
re: Mystery Ecuador

Here's an article about map stamps relating to the Galapagos and it discusses stamps of this design:

http://www.mapf.co.uk/Pages/Articles/low%20res_Map%20Stamps%20of%20the%20Galapagos%20Islands%20by%20Roger%20Kirby.pdf

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27 Nov 2018
11:28:41am
re: Mystery Ecuador

Nigel, thank you. Your knowledge never ceases to amaze me.
Interesting information.
Rrr...

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27 Nov 2018
02:30:17pm
re: Mystery Ecuador

Been working on my Ecuador stamps recently, and after organizing what I have to 1970, I am left with a very large number of fiscal overprints of one form or another, that are mostly not accounted in my Scott catalog.
Ecuador does make significant use of overprinted fiscal stamps for ordinary and Postal Tax usage, but even after separating those, I am left with about 50 stamps I cannot account for...no doubt some are true fiscal or telegraph stamps, but the rest? Has anyone who has collected Ecuador recount such large number of these overprints.
rrr...
Just a quick scan of a few of the stamps to illustrate my question. I am sure I will end up identifying a number of the ordinary postal usage stamps, or postal tax o/p, but I am surprised by the sheer number of all of them them including subjects such as "Gayaquil Centenario" or 2 or 3rd "Clase", or Railroad stamps:

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michael78651

27 Nov 2018
04:29:27pm
re: Mystery Ecuador

Yes, Ecuador multi-tasks their stamps!

Many of the stamps pictured are listed. Check also air mail and other BOB sections for several. Others with "Postal" will be in the regular postage section and are from the 1920s through 1970s. I don't know what year catalog you have, but the listed stamps have images for the most part.

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27 Nov 2018
06:04:45pm
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Ralph, I don't know what the Galapagos stamp is although it looks familiar. If you have not already, you should check my Ecuador pages as you will find a good many of these stamps represented. Many of course are revenues either for use as revenues or overprinted for other usages. I have many revenues but I do not have a catalog or pages that allow me to place them in a meaningful order, so I do not have them scanned. I believe the first row are ll revenue stamps. It is a very confusing area to be sure and one would be well serviced by obtaining a comprehensive catalog for Ecuador. If I'm not mistaken Michel has a catalog that would show most of them.

http://mitch.seymourfamily.com/mward/collection/samerica/ecuador/ecuador.html

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rrraphy
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27 Nov 2018
10:57:03pm
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Yes Michael, I did find a few in my (2018) Scott pages, but I was noting how many stamps are multi-tasked as you indicated in Ecuador, which seems a bit odd to me. A number of them, while inscribed with "Postal" or "Air Mail" also don't seem to appear in the Scott listings. There are a few non-issued sets, but generally the stamps fit well in the Scott listing, except for these pesky o/p.
Are you aware of other countries where so many stamps which seem to have been used for Fiscal or other non postage uses are then also (with various o/p) used for Regular, Airmail or Postal Tax uses, like Ecuador does? I was noting how odd it felt. This is my first crack at Ecuador and I just sorted out the envelopes of stamps I had, to organize an album. I was a bit overwhelmed by the number of these Fiscal o/p...I just displayed a few of the ones I have.
Now I am looking for a lot of empty slots to fill!
Curious also about the Guayaquil Centenario o/p ones, two of which have a perforation in the middle (3rd row, 3rd and 4th stamps). Any one has a clue?
rrr...

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michael78651

27 Nov 2018
11:52:26pm
re: Mystery Ecuador

Guatemala has alot of overprinted stamps from the early days, but not so multi-tasked as with Ecuador, I think. Many countries recycle older stamps kept in storage and surcharge them with new values. Guyana and Fiji come quickly to mind. Better to use the surplus stamps than to simply destroy them.

The Franklin Roosevelt stamps were not officially issued. The rest of the "postal" and "aero" that you show I believe are listed.

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ikeyPikey
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28 Nov 2018
01:27:17pm
re: Mystery Ecuador

https://www.MapsOnStamps.org

... U$D 20 to join The CartoPhilatelic Society

... U$D 25 for their 39,850-stamp checklist in Excel format

Q/ Do you feel curious?

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

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pigdoc

29 Nov 2018
11:50:26am
re: Mystery Ecuador

I do like the stamp in the bottom row center, commemorating Pan American Grace Airway's 20,000th crossing of the equator, on July 26, 1951!

-Paul

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rrraphy

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27 Nov 2018
03:39:03am

I just cannot find it. Does anyone know what year (and if you have it, the Scott Cat #).
My eyes are getting tired looking for it without success. Thanks in advance. rrr...

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27 Nov 2018
04:50:09am

re: Mystery Ecuador

Maybe an essay? It's a map of the Galapagos, but bears no relation to the 1936 Darwin set

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nigelc

27 Nov 2018
06:08:06am

re: Mystery Ecuador

Here's an article about map stamps relating to the Galapagos and it discusses stamps of this design:

http://www.mapf.co.uk/Pages/Articles/low%20res_Map%20Stamps%20of%20the%20Galapagos%20Islands%20by%20Roger%20Kirby.pdf

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27 Nov 2018
11:28:41am

re: Mystery Ecuador

Nigel, thank you. Your knowledge never ceases to amaze me.
Interesting information.
Rrr...

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Retired Consultant APS#186030
27 Nov 2018
02:30:17pm

re: Mystery Ecuador

Been working on my Ecuador stamps recently, and after organizing what I have to 1970, I am left with a very large number of fiscal overprints of one form or another, that are mostly not accounted in my Scott catalog.
Ecuador does make significant use of overprinted fiscal stamps for ordinary and Postal Tax usage, but even after separating those, I am left with about 50 stamps I cannot account for...no doubt some are true fiscal or telegraph stamps, but the rest? Has anyone who has collected Ecuador recount such large number of these overprints.
rrr...
Just a quick scan of a few of the stamps to illustrate my question. I am sure I will end up identifying a number of the ordinary postal usage stamps, or postal tax o/p, but I am surprised by the sheer number of all of them them including subjects such as "Gayaquil Centenario" or 2 or 3rd "Clase", or Railroad stamps:

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rrr...

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michael78651

27 Nov 2018
04:29:27pm

re: Mystery Ecuador

Yes, Ecuador multi-tasks their stamps!

Many of the stamps pictured are listed. Check also air mail and other BOB sections for several. Others with "Postal" will be in the regular postage section and are from the 1920s through 1970s. I don't know what year catalog you have, but the listed stamps have images for the most part.

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AntoniusRa

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27 Nov 2018
06:04:45pm

re: Mystery Ecuador

Ralph, I don't know what the Galapagos stamp is although it looks familiar. If you have not already, you should check my Ecuador pages as you will find a good many of these stamps represented. Many of course are revenues either for use as revenues or overprinted for other usages. I have many revenues but I do not have a catalog or pages that allow me to place them in a meaningful order, so I do not have them scanned. I believe the first row are ll revenue stamps. It is a very confusing area to be sure and one would be well serviced by obtaining a comprehensive catalog for Ecuador. If I'm not mistaken Michel has a catalog that would show most of them.

http://mitch.seymourfamily.com/mward/collection/samerica/ecuador/ecuador.html

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rrraphy

Retired Consultant APS#186030
27 Nov 2018
10:57:03pm

re: Mystery Ecuador

Yes Michael, I did find a few in my (2018) Scott pages, but I was noting how many stamps are multi-tasked as you indicated in Ecuador, which seems a bit odd to me. A number of them, while inscribed with "Postal" or "Air Mail" also don't seem to appear in the Scott listings. There are a few non-issued sets, but generally the stamps fit well in the Scott listing, except for these pesky o/p.
Are you aware of other countries where so many stamps which seem to have been used for Fiscal or other non postage uses are then also (with various o/p) used for Regular, Airmail or Postal Tax uses, like Ecuador does? I was noting how odd it felt. This is my first crack at Ecuador and I just sorted out the envelopes of stamps I had, to organize an album. I was a bit overwhelmed by the number of these Fiscal o/p...I just displayed a few of the ones I have.
Now I am looking for a lot of empty slots to fill!
Curious also about the Guayaquil Centenario o/p ones, two of which have a perforation in the middle (3rd row, 3rd and 4th stamps). Any one has a clue?
rrr...

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michael78651

27 Nov 2018
11:52:26pm

re: Mystery Ecuador

Guatemala has alot of overprinted stamps from the early days, but not so multi-tasked as with Ecuador, I think. Many countries recycle older stamps kept in storage and surcharge them with new values. Guyana and Fiji come quickly to mind. Better to use the surplus stamps than to simply destroy them.

The Franklin Roosevelt stamps were not officially issued. The rest of the "postal" and "aero" that you show I believe are listed.

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ikeyPikey

28 Nov 2018
01:27:17pm

re: Mystery Ecuador

https://www.MapsOnStamps.org

... U$D 20 to join The CartoPhilatelic Society

... U$D 25 for their 39,850-stamp checklist in Excel format

Q/ Do you feel curious?

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

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pigdoc

29 Nov 2018
11:50:26am

re: Mystery Ecuador

I do like the stamp in the bottom row center, commemorating Pan American Grace Airway's 20,000th crossing of the equator, on July 26, 1951!

-Paul

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