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jpoole
31 Oct 2018
01:19:40am
I am new to Stamporama and have got a good start into collecting WW 1840-1963 through buying old scott international albums and stamp country pages on ebay. Still missing a good number of countries. I probably have about 15,000-20,000 stamps total not counting U S A. Question is should I commit to a new 4 vol scott international and continue as I have been doing by feeding into it since I started this year or should I continue to canabalize and scavenge country stamp pages? I know about the possible problems and deficiences mentioned in these 4 vols from prior threads.
Time is a consideration as I am 66 yoa. Thank you.
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31 Oct 2018
06:20:58am
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Welcome.
Here is my opinion,

1. Buy and use quality vintage hinges.
2. Be aware that many albums/lots/collections on eBay are typically full of weeds and stamps of poor quality. Good material has been pulled years ago, less-then-ethical sellers will hide stamps with condition issues in large collections/lots, less-then-ethical sellers will salt questionable stamps in eBay lots/collections.
3. Think about your objectives, is it for enjoyment or investment? If enjoyment, then view eBay purchases in that way and calculate a ‘fun factor’. If a lot is $400 will you get $400 of enjoyment from it? If so, it is a no brainer and anything that your collection will bring after you are done with it is gravy. If investment is your objective, then consider something other than eBay stamps.
4. Build relationships with sellers; just because we buy online doesn’t mean that we should forget how to build strong business relationships.
5. Be careful with trying to merge early Internationals pages with newer Internationals pages; the running changes made in the country layouts can drive you to drink.
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02 Nov 2018
10:08:31am
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Hi JPoole!

The 60's are the new 50's!

That's what some youngster's told me!

So, I'm in my 50's, so I guess I'm 40!


Sounds like you have plenty of time!


Happy


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jbaxter5256
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03 Nov 2018
12:17:54am
re: Best way to build WW 1840-1963 album

Roger,

Like you, my primary collection lately (other than a Smithsonian Stamp for Every Country album on which I am working concurrently) is a set of International Parts I-V covering the years 1840-1963. I have concentrated on trying to find mint stamps for the albums although there are some older used stamps included for Canada, France, and Great Britain in particular where I had standalone collections which I used to feed the earlier areas for these countries. Most of my acquisitions have been through scavenging from older albums on eBay or from local stores, fortunately there are a couple of storefront dealers in the Seattle area, although lately I have bought a number of items from U-Pick albums at one dealer and from individual stamp/set acquisitions from eBay.

I just passed 15,000 stamps in the album set and am working my way through some other collection purchases which I need to integrate with a hope of reaching 20% completion by early 2019 which would be just over 17,000 different of the 85,598 spaces I counted in the albums. After that I suspect it is going to take a while to make a significant inroad to my next major milestone goal of 20,000 different! I track the number of stamps in each country by an Excel spreadsheet which has a worksheet for each album with a list of countries with the number of spaces in the album plus the number of stamps I have for the country plus any tip-ins I have added (I tend to make additions quite sparingly though).

I bought albums and/or pages through eBay and one Part 1B2 from Amos Media new after being unable to find one available through auction on eBay. Parts 1A1 , 1A2, and 1B1 were all found unused on eBay as well as Parts II and III with Parts IV and V being previously used with several hundred stamps in each album so with patience finding clean, problem free albums is definitely possible at significant discounts from Amos Media's list prices. I, also, bought new binders to replace some worn binders from older feeder collections that I used initially through eBay as well. Currently my collection is not organized chronologically by country but is in the album year sets as published by Scott which I have decided I prefer for no particular reason that I can identify.

Sounds like you have made a great start on your collection!

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21 Oct 2019
01:11:14am
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As we are approaching the end of 2019 I find my expectation of reaching 20% coverage by the beginning of 2019 was quite optimistic. Just reached 19% coverage today and have a backlog of items to add which should be doable over the next couple of months and which should finally allow me to reach the 20% coverage level. I am reasonably sure that I have the stamps just got backed up with adding them to the albums as I concentrated on the Smithsonian Stamp for Every Country album and needed to get some additional mounts and hinges as I ran out of the commonly used mounts and used every hinge I had, given that I had nearly 12,000 when I started on the albums that does represent something of an accomplishment. Lately I am using clear Scott mounts for most additions as they look cleaner in the album and allow me to take stamps out of the album for review much more easily plus quite a few newer acquisitions have been non-hinged by happenstance.

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21 Oct 2019
01:16:55pm
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Collecting worldwide is quite a challenge, even if it is "only" up to 1963, considering that there have been some notoriously difficult countries even back then, and some stamps can be quite hard to find and/or rather expensive. Some countries have already started in the 1940s to issue a whole lot of topical stamps (although the good news is that these can often be had for comparative little money). It might be more satisfying to concentrate on a few countries, maybe those that you already have got the album pages for.

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21 Oct 2019
02:31:38pm
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This Summer I managed to locate and buy a number of International sections on Ebay. I am currently using a 1955 volume one and plan to gift myself with sections 2-6 this Christmas. Merging the older volume one with the remainder will be a bit problematic. Several countries in my section one start on the left side of the pages, for example. I was lucky to locate sections with paper that more or less matches. The newer Internationals are now being printed on stock with a distinct yellow tone. I second all that Don said, it's good advice.

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21 Oct 2019
03:03:17pm
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That Volume One is a pain in the butt, bum, heine, etc.

The most inventive way that I have seen a collector be able to use those pages that have the wrong stamps/countries on a page is to use blank International pages. He trimmed the pages to fit the space of the unwanted spaces, and glued the cover sheet over it. Unless you really looked, it wasn't bothersome as the paper color was moatly the same. it will all depend on your personal tastes.

Now, that meant he had to buy multiple copies of Volume One, but you can get them on the cheap now and then.

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02 Feb 2020
12:14:45pm
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Reached a new milestone this morning on my 1840-1863 International album set of 20.0% completion for Parts 1A1-1B2 and 20.6% completion of Parts 1A1-5. Collection is virtually all uncanceled stamps with a mix of MNH, MLH, MH, and a very small number of used stamps (probably less than 300).

Just realized I reached 20% on 2/2/2020, seems appropriate doesn't it?

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11 Mar 2020
02:15:52pm
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I have continued to make progress on adding stamps to the International 1840-1963 albums and have now reached a new milestone with 22.61% completion and 19,351 stamps in the albums. Albums remain fairly balanced in their coverage with a low of 20.06% in the Part III album for 1949-55 and a high of 27.36% in the Part IV album for 1956-59.

I am in complete awe of Antonius Ra's collection building efforts, just the physical effort in identifying and adding that many stamps to his Scott Specialty albums is inspiring! Thanks so much for making the pages accessible online!!

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16 May 2020
10:38:03pm
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I have been quite busy making additions to the International 1840-1963 albums for the last couple of months and reached a major milestone today with 25.01% completion for the albums and 21,405 of 85,598 stamps in the albums even after removing most of the remaining used stamps from the albums. So now I have surpassed 1 out of every 4 stamps for the combined albums. Getting very close now on reaching 25% for the Parts 1A1-1B2 album pages in particular but still not even close on the Part III album which is currently at 21.35% complete! Happy

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29 Jun 2020
02:44:53am
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I have continued adding stamps to my International 1840-1963 albums and now have 24,418 stamps in the albums for 28.5% completion with less than a hundred remaining used stamps in the albums. All parts now have 25% completion or better and as a new milestone Parts II and IV have reached better than 33.3% completion so now have 1 of every 3 stamps required for those two albums and 1 of every 4 stamps required for the other three parts!


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30 Jun 2020
01:06:14am
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Baxter Thanks much, I Really appreciate knowing that there are people who appreciate and benefit from having my collection on line for reference. I know how much a site like this would have helped me years ago but of course there were none. I do hope any collector,
who hasn't would check it out because I'm sure it would be helpful to them.
See link below............

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30 Jun 2020
10:09:16am

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Good to see you Antonius !

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01 Jul 2020
08:20:25pm
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Yes Mitch - good to hear from you!

Its been a while!

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03 Jul 2020
02:20:47am
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Phil and Randy thanks for the greeting. I check the board out a couple times a week but there just doesn't seem to be much for me to offer. Most questions have been answered before I see them. I also have pretty much stopped looking for additions for most of the world as most of what I need is to expensive or to difficult to find. I do hope the rest of you have much luck and happiness in building your collections. I'll keep checking in and hope I can be of help from time to time.

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03 Jul 2020
01:55:24pm
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Mitchell: It's great to see you on here! Until your post a couple of days ago, I was a little concerned about you. Glad you're hanging in there!

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04 Jul 2020
02:17:02am
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Dave, Thanks and I'm very glad to hear from you also. It must be 20 years or so that we have conversed on different boards and have found you to be one of the nicest participants on any of them. At an rate, I'm not done yet.

I didn't mean to take over this thread. I have had a lot to say about this subject in the past but everyone seems to have a different opinion on it. The one thing I would not do is make 1963 my cut-off date, unless it was my birth year. I like 1940 as a cut off date as it includes the classic era (first 100 years)and only requires one catalog. However there is on big problem with that year in that it does not include WWII post WWII which I feel is very important. It would have been pretty easy thing to make my cut-off year 1950 as it is my birth year and includes WWII. The main problem is the Scott Classic Catalog only goes to 1940 and you have to buy another 5 or so catalogs to include those years.

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20 Jul 2020
07:35:58pm
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I've been stepping up my efforts on Japan and Great Britain country collections with mint stamps as well as general British Commonwealth issues in my International 1840-1963 albums now that availability of missing Finland issues has become quite limited. That should keep me busy for a while. Happy

Just reached 25,351 different in the International albums for 29.61% completion so making some progress there. My recent additions concentrated on the 1840-1900 time period. I managed to come up with 383 additions of mint stamps for that period. Most of the stamps came from a 19th century edition of the Scott Brown albums that was made available as a u-pick album.

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28 Jul 2020
11:58:19pm
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Made real progress on the British Commonwealth issues going through a couple of New Ideal album volumes picking out missing stamps for my International 1840-1963 album plus added some additional issues for Jamaica, Bechuanaland, Ireland, and the Bahamas from some selected pages bought at an online auction.

Now up to 30.30% overall completion with 25,941 out of 85,600 possible stamps after removing most of the remaining used stamps as well (at least I think I got them all, except for two really nice early USA issues including a Scott #1). New mileposts were that I reached 10,002 different stamps in the Parts 1A1-1B2 albums for 1840-1940 and I reached 40% completion on the Part IV album.

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29 Jul 2020
06:33:32am
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From what I have seen, the Scott International albums do not have spaces for all major number in the pre-1930 period. How do you handle that?

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29 Jul 2020
09:08:46am
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For the most part I collect to the album. If I come up with an additional item and the album has space next to the other items in the set I will add it next to the other items but this is fairly rare. Currently I have 485 tip-ins that have been added in this fashion across the eight binders that make up the album but they are not counted in my album completion totals as they are additions not part of the album requirements. By far the largest number of additions are to the Parts 1A1-1B2 albums covering 1840-1940 which as Scott states are for a "representative" collection. Happy

I, also, don't count stamps added for open ended pages like for the India States issues where no predefined spaces are present so they are counted as tip-ins.

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29 Jul 2020
12:41:59pm
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Edited my response regarding handling of unrepresented stamps to the International pages to provide some more details.

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13 Sep 2020
05:02:07pm
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Continuing to work on my International collection and reached a new milestone for the collection of 27,662 of 85,600 stamps for the collection and 6,000 stamps in the Part II album. Now have 32% of the stamp spaces in the album set filled. Most of the new stamps are for France so the country is almost complete other than the first page for France with mint stamps. I have a few stamps in place for the first page but they will be a long time coming I suspect to reach a respectable level of completion on that page. Happy

I have, also, added quite a few stamps for Italy and especially for the Italian colonies but still have a long way to go there. Very close now on reaching 11,000 different in the Parts 1A1-1B2 albums and have some Mexico stamps to go through which should put me over.

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