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General Philatelic/Identify This? : Any Armenia/Russia/Soviet/Republics Experts?

 

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12 Oct 2018
07:48:50pm
Image Not FoundNeed verification of country-republic on these stamps, as well as Scott Cat. Numbers!Image Not Found

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13 Oct 2018
03:57:20am
re: Any Armenia/Russia/Soviet/Republics Experts?

Top ones are 'deep back of book' Russia Exchange stamps, 1925. Not listed in Scott, market values around $4-$10

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13 Oct 2018
06:30:02am
re: Any Armenia/Russia/Soviet/Republics Experts?

Hi stampbaby,

The two exchange control stamps nicely described by 51Studebaker are also listed in SG.

The Armenia stamp is also listed in SG as SG 117.

I don't know my way around the Scott listings and I'm using an old 2009 edition but if I'm reading this correctly I would expect it to be listed immediately after Scott #187.

It looks as though 187A, 187B, 187C have been added over time so maybe this is another candidate for inclusion.

On the other hand, SG doesn't include the two 10r overprints, i.e. Sc. #187A & #188A

My issue with Armenia overprints is that there are huge numbers of forgeries and I don't have the expertise to distinguish them from genuine stamps.


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malcolm197

19 Oct 2018
03:26:42am
re: Any Armenia/Russia/Soviet/Republics Experts?

It might be worth looking through armeniazemstvo.com and stampsofarmenia.com ( or possibly .blogspot.co.uk ) to see if there are any clues there.

These are blogs written by those who consider themselves THE experts in the subject ( and who am I to argue who knows zilch about the subjects ).


There are certainly chapter and verse on how to recognise forgeries ( including some which are generally considered genuine).


Both are examples on how philatelic information in depth should be presented.

Malcolm

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nigelc
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19 Oct 2018
08:37:58am
re: Any Armenia/Russia/Soviet/Republics Experts?

Dr R. J. Ceresa published several detailed handbooks on the Armenia issues in his series The Postage Stamps of Russia, 1917-1923

Here's the parts listing from Wikipedia:

Volume 1. Armenia

Part 1 The 60 Kopeck surcharges
Part 2 The Small and Medium sized Framed HP Monogram Overprints
Part 3 The Large sized Framed HP Monogram Overprints
Parts 4/5 The Unframed HP Monogram Overprints
Parts 6/7 The 1, 3 and 5 Rouble HH Surcharges
Parts 8/9 The 10, 25, 50, and 100 Rouble HH Surcharges
Parts 10/13 The Pictorial Issues and Surcharges

Based on the structure of the "Volume 3" books that I have on the Russian Civil War issues, this Armenia volume would have been published as seven softcover books.

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re: Any Armenia/Russia/Soviet/Republics Experts?

Top ones are 'deep back of book' Russia Exchange stamps, 1925. Not listed in Scott, market values around $4-$10

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nigelc

13 Oct 2018
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re: Any Armenia/Russia/Soviet/Republics Experts?

Hi stampbaby,

The two exchange control stamps nicely described by 51Studebaker are also listed in SG.

The Armenia stamp is also listed in SG as SG 117.

I don't know my way around the Scott listings and I'm using an old 2009 edition but if I'm reading this correctly I would expect it to be listed immediately after Scott #187.

It looks as though 187A, 187B, 187C have been added over time so maybe this is another candidate for inclusion.

On the other hand, SG doesn't include the two 10r overprints, i.e. Sc. #187A & #188A

My issue with Armenia overprints is that there are huge numbers of forgeries and I don't have the expertise to distinguish them from genuine stamps.


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malcolm197

19 Oct 2018
03:26:42am

re: Any Armenia/Russia/Soviet/Republics Experts?

It might be worth looking through armeniazemstvo.com and stampsofarmenia.com ( or possibly .blogspot.co.uk ) to see if there are any clues there.

These are blogs written by those who consider themselves THE experts in the subject ( and who am I to argue who knows zilch about the subjects ).


There are certainly chapter and verse on how to recognise forgeries ( including some which are generally considered genuine).


Both are examples on how philatelic information in depth should be presented.

Malcolm

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nigelc

19 Oct 2018
08:37:58am

re: Any Armenia/Russia/Soviet/Republics Experts?

Dr R. J. Ceresa published several detailed handbooks on the Armenia issues in his series The Postage Stamps of Russia, 1917-1923

Here's the parts listing from Wikipedia:

Volume 1. Armenia

Part 1 The 60 Kopeck surcharges
Part 2 The Small and Medium sized Framed HP Monogram Overprints
Part 3 The Large sized Framed HP Monogram Overprints
Parts 4/5 The Unframed HP Monogram Overprints
Parts 6/7 The 1, 3 and 5 Rouble HH Surcharges
Parts 8/9 The 10, 25, 50, and 100 Rouble HH Surcharges
Parts 10/13 The Pictorial Issues and Surcharges

Based on the structure of the "Volume 3" books that I have on the Russian Civil War issues, this Armenia volume would have been published as seven softcover books.

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