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Discussion - Member to Member Sales - Research Center
1. Can someone tell me when Scott moved the Great Britain Machins issues out of the regular listings and put them at the end of the Great Britain listings in their own section?
2. Did Scott ignore the change of removing the Machins from the regular listings, or did they provide revised pages for their International album to clean up the Machins from the regular pages, and provide special pages for the Machin issues? If so, what year supplement first contained the revised pages? I know that Scott revised the specialty pages, but I need to know if they also revised the International pages.
Thanks!
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I believe Scott changed/moved the Great Britain Machins stamps with the 2001 catalog. The change in the numbering system is listed at the back of the catalog.
I do not know if Scott reissued replacement pages for the International albums.
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Not Scott, but I stopped my Stanley Gibbons Windsor album UK collection in 1983, but continued to pick up the Machins. I think I will put the decimal Machins in their own album when the series finally comes to an end if I'm still around. Thankfully the early decimal Windsor album pages make that easy. Do Scott international albums combine the Machins with the commemorative stamps on the same page?
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Hi Michael,
I believe SG moved the decimal Machins in 2010.
There is a comment about this in the introduction to my 2010 SG Concise.
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Bernie - thanks. that helps. It's more for the album pages that I need this information. Scott International pages for Great Britain are a mess up to the mid-1980s. They even include the regional definitives with the regular Great Britain commemoratives. The Scott Specialized pages are properly organized.
Danny - Yes, Scott International usually combine commemorative and definitive stamps on the same pages. They have gotten away from that practice, but the older albums have the pages with the two types of stamps on them.
Nigel - I always thought that it was Scott that followed Gibbon's practice of how the Machin issues were listed. This is a surprise.
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I moved my GB collection out of Gibbons Windsor albums earlier this year because their treatment of the Machins was awful. They are presented in piecemeal fashion, the whole section for them is like an accumulation of supplement pages; little attempt to pull the whole thing together into something making sense. I don't get into them all that much anyway and the Lighthouse albums provide a good basic display that works for my level on these.
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I understand that. It's the same with the earlier Scott pages. The Steiner pages are good, but they are not complete, and in the latest years, the stamps are just a few on a page per year.
I really wish that album makers would realize that page counts and volume are a big problem. So many pages can and should (in my opinion) be merged to reduce the number of pages. I know that Scott used to hold off on printing pages until sets/pages were complete. They also would issue temporary pages that some people didn't like. So, Scott quit doing that, and sticks stamps on pages that get the stamp all out of order by years. For example, stamps from 1979 can be found on pages for 1990. If people don't like to change out stamps and put them on another page a couple of years later, that's fine,but they should still put the stamps in the right area.
The same has happened with the larger-sized album binders. They were discontinued, because some people complained that they were too heavy. First, buy a smaller binder. Second, don't overfill the binders so that the covers stand out at 45 degree angles and then break the binder. So now it is necessary to buy the smaller binder that is half the size of the larger ones. That means, yes at the increased price, you have to buy two, doubling the cost.
Don't even get me started on how Scott is pricing the International pages by splitting each part into at least two sections, not adding any pages for missing stamps or countries, raising the price from what it was as a single section, and charging more than double for what it used to cost as one.
I really have to wonder how many supplements Scott really sells at the enormous prices that they charge. I thought "print on demand" was meant to be a cheaper means of providing a product whereby one no longer has to warehouse goods. Scott's "print on demand" takes about a month, by the way.
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L@@K ROBIN HARRIS albums ///
http://adminware.ca/machin/m_album.htm
I use specialised Type 3 to save ink
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You can find a 97 page denominated Machin album created by Dennis Wallick here http://www.thestampweb.com/albums.html
He is currently working on an NVI companion album as well.
The album can be downloaded as a ready to print PDF or as an AlbumEasy text file which can be fully customized.
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04:24:16am
Two questions here:
1. Can someone tell me when Scott moved the Great Britain Machins issues out of the regular listings and put them at the end of the Great Britain listings in their own section?
2. Did Scott ignore the change of removing the Machins from the regular listings, or did they provide revised pages for their International album to clean up the Machins from the regular pages, and provide special pages for the Machin issues? If so, what year supplement first contained the revised pages? I know that Scott revised the specialty pages, but I need to know if they also revised the International pages.
Thanks!
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re: Machins and Scott Catalog and Scott International Album
I believe Scott changed/moved the Great Britain Machins stamps with the 2001 catalog. The change in the numbering system is listed at the back of the catalog.
I do not know if Scott reissued replacement pages for the International albums.
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re: Machins and Scott Catalog and Scott International Album
Not Scott, but I stopped my Stanley Gibbons Windsor album UK collection in 1983, but continued to pick up the Machins. I think I will put the decimal Machins in their own album when the series finally comes to an end if I'm still around. Thankfully the early decimal Windsor album pages make that easy. Do Scott international albums combine the Machins with the commemorative stamps on the same page?
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re: Machins and Scott Catalog and Scott International Album
Hi Michael,
I believe SG moved the decimal Machins in 2010.
There is a comment about this in the introduction to my 2010 SG Concise.
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12:15:05pm
re: Machins and Scott Catalog and Scott International Album
Bernie - thanks. that helps. It's more for the album pages that I need this information. Scott International pages for Great Britain are a mess up to the mid-1980s. They even include the regional definitives with the regular Great Britain commemoratives. The Scott Specialized pages are properly organized.
Danny - Yes, Scott International usually combine commemorative and definitive stamps on the same pages. They have gotten away from that practice, but the older albums have the pages with the two types of stamps on them.
Nigel - I always thought that it was Scott that followed Gibbon's practice of how the Machin issues were listed. This is a surprise.
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re: Machins and Scott Catalog and Scott International Album
I moved my GB collection out of Gibbons Windsor albums earlier this year because their treatment of the Machins was awful. They are presented in piecemeal fashion, the whole section for them is like an accumulation of supplement pages; little attempt to pull the whole thing together into something making sense. I don't get into them all that much anyway and the Lighthouse albums provide a good basic display that works for my level on these.
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re: Machins and Scott Catalog and Scott International Album
I understand that. It's the same with the earlier Scott pages. The Steiner pages are good, but they are not complete, and in the latest years, the stamps are just a few on a page per year.
I really wish that album makers would realize that page counts and volume are a big problem. So many pages can and should (in my opinion) be merged to reduce the number of pages. I know that Scott used to hold off on printing pages until sets/pages were complete. They also would issue temporary pages that some people didn't like. So, Scott quit doing that, and sticks stamps on pages that get the stamp all out of order by years. For example, stamps from 1979 can be found on pages for 1990. If people don't like to change out stamps and put them on another page a couple of years later, that's fine,but they should still put the stamps in the right area.
The same has happened with the larger-sized album binders. They were discontinued, because some people complained that they were too heavy. First, buy a smaller binder. Second, don't overfill the binders so that the covers stand out at 45 degree angles and then break the binder. So now it is necessary to buy the smaller binder that is half the size of the larger ones. That means, yes at the increased price, you have to buy two, doubling the cost.
Don't even get me started on how Scott is pricing the International pages by splitting each part into at least two sections, not adding any pages for missing stamps or countries, raising the price from what it was as a single section, and charging more than double for what it used to cost as one.
I really have to wonder how many supplements Scott really sells at the enormous prices that they charge. I thought "print on demand" was meant to be a cheaper means of providing a product whereby one no longer has to warehouse goods. Scott's "print on demand" takes about a month, by the way.
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re: Machins and Scott Catalog and Scott International Album
L@@K ROBIN HARRIS albums ///
http://adminware.ca/machin/m_album.htm
I use specialised Type 3 to save ink
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re: Machins and Scott Catalog and Scott International Album
You can find a 97 page denominated Machin album created by Dennis Wallick here http://www.thestampweb.com/albums.html
He is currently working on an NVI companion album as well.
The album can be downloaded as a ready to print PDF or as an AlbumEasy text file which can be fully customized.
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