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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Party Like It's 1999

 

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Tom in Exton, PA

28 Aug 2018
08:47:03pm
I received an email from a "postal history" dealer today. Note that anyone with an old cover calls them postal history.

He has something like 5000 lots that he's "auctioning off". He has created a list like you'd receive on paper in the 1970s... not a single picture of any cover he's offering! I'm calling this 1999 because he at least has the lots listed on a web page, and it reminds me of the very beginnings of eBay before people had digital cameras and scanners. If you'd like to see what you are bidding on he will do this...

PHOTOCOPIES: Because condition is such an important factor for most postal history material, bidders are encouraged to request photocopies of lots of interest. For photocopies, follow these instructions exactly:
Send a self-addressed stamped envelope, plus:
- 10 cents per each black & white copy requested (standard-sized cover or postcard item.)
- 60 cents per each COLOR copy requested (standard-sized cover or postcard item.)
- $1.50 per each COLOR PHOTOGRAPH requested (three-dimensional items.)
- Include proportionate payment for oversized items, letter contents, multiple-piece lots, etc.
Be sure that your return envelope is franked with adequate postage. You MUST include postage and payment with your photocopy request, as we are unable to invoice you for our photocopy service.
NOTE: All requests for PHOTOCOPIES must be made by MAIL ONLY.
PLEASE DO NOT request photocopies via email, fax or telephone.
We ask you to limit your copy requests to those items on which you are seriously considering placing bids.


He is treading around the year 2000 with his Earth shattering new service:


We are now offering our new "Cover Scan" service to internet users.

HERE'S WHAT WE'LL DO...

We'll scan color images of any covers, postcards or other flat paper items that are listed in our sales and transmit them to you as attachments to an email message. All images will be scanned at 100 DPI/100% (or LESSER DPI and LESSER percent, at your request) and transmitted as "gif" file attachments. At the same time, we will transmit a "carbon copy" of the message and the attachment to our own email address to verify that the transmission was correctly processed by our equipment and our server.

HERE'S WHAT YOU NEED TO DO...

First of all, read this page - right down to the last word. If you request the Cover Scan service, you will be indicating that you have read, understood, and agree to comply with all of the conditions explained here. This page appears only on our internet web site.

Next, verify that your equipment, your server, your browser and your computer programs are all capable of displaying "gif" files that have been attached to email messages. Our server assures us that this is all of the information that you will need in order to determine whether this service will work for you and whether you will be able to view the scans.

Please DO NOT contact us with questions about your equipment, your server, your browser or your computer programs. We are in the postal history business, not the computer business, and we are not qualified to offer any opinions about whether or not this service is going to work for you. Those questions must be directed to computer experts, not postal history dealers.
(or ask any small child!)

Once you have determined that you're equipped to use the Cover Scan service, then do the following:

- Make a list of the lots that you want to have scanned.
- Via REGULAR MAIL ONLY, send that list, along with a check or money order for $ 5.00 (U.S.) per each three items to be scanned, and a SELF-ADDRESSED STAMPED ENVELOPE, along with your CORRECT EMAIL ADDRESS,


Note he still wants you to use USPS MAIL to send payment for scans. ARGH!

His pricing and terms are also way out there. His cover pricing is several times any market value and his terms for bidding are probably illegal, and done manually so I'd be suspect.

I don't know how he does any business! He has some decent stuff, if only it was all properly scanned and posted online at eBay or any of the other Internet sites his competition use.

Man oh man!
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28 Aug 2018
10:53:47pm
re: Party Like It's 1999

Sounds like someone stuck in the 90's for sure!

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michael78651

28 Aug 2018
11:34:06pm
re: Party Like It's 1999

Probably one of the last dinosaur dealers still around. He probably gets his business from a few of the remaining dinosaur collectors still clinging around who don't know what the internet is, except a thing full of fraud, theft, porn, and little else.

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StampWrangler
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28 Aug 2018
11:51:34pm
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Amazed if he sells a single item.

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smauggie
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29 Aug 2018
10:36:30am
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I know who you are talking about. I have seen his catalogs. I know a couple of people who buy from them, but have chosen not to do so myself.

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lemaven
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29 Aug 2018
02:56:46pm
re: Party Like It's 1999

"Amazed if he sells a single item."



Looking at his offering and price list, I suspect he doesn't expect to (or even hope to) sell anything!

It seems more like a scam to get some gullible people to "pay me to show you what I'm selling, so I don't have to incur any costs to do so, and then if you decide to buy I can always say sorry but those items have already been sold while you waited to receive my scans".

Unfortunately, there is always room for people to prey on the desperate, unsophisticated, and overly-trusting in our society. Like Gwyneth Paltrow and her "Goop" & "Jade Egg" crap.

Sad, Sad, Sad ...

Dave.

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30 Aug 2018
08:33:05pm
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Dave, I love Gwyneth as an actress, she does good work. But her Goop recommendations are... crap. A curated offering of highly overpriced crap. It pains me to say so, as I am very fond of her work. Especially the Wes Anderson movies.

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lemaven
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31 Aug 2018
04:13:04pm
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Eric:

Count me in as thinking Gwyneth is a good actress - and a surprisingly really good singer (I had to sit through "Glee" with my 2 teenage daughters).

But I despair for our current celebrity culture where absolute "fake news/research" can be spread by an actor - being taken more seriously on some health issues, while making way more money for themselves than legitimate doctors and researchers (another one is Jenna McCarthy and her "vaccinations cause autism fable based on well-debunked fake research). And reality stars who do the same...

But, as PT Barnum said,

"Nobody ever lost a dollar by underestimating the taste {or was it "intelligence"?} of the American public."


and

"There's a sucker born every minute."



It's just too bad that some people throw their money away so easily...

Dave.




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musicman
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09 Sep 2018
10:36:21am
re: Party Like It's 1999

.....and it KINDA sounds as if he is collecting current stamps on cover this way...

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11 Sep 2018
11:30:49am
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" .... Like Gwyneth Paltrow and her "Goop"
& "Jade Egg" crap. ...."




I had never paid any attention to Gwyneth Paltrow's
private activities and recall little about her
beyond that she is a blonde actress of some renown,
and seemed to be too skinny to be healthy, in my opinion.
However, while driving back from Florida last weekend,
a comedian whose name escapes me now, explained,
in a skit that some would find to be excessively explicit,
( and I admit hilarious ), terms exactly
what "Goop" was advocating as the beneficial use of this
$80.00 "Jade Egg".
The things that never entered my mind, .... !!!

For the stout of heart, there is a Washington Post column that provides the actual details of the "Scam."

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Tom in Exton, PA
28 Aug 2018
08:47:03pm

I received an email from a "postal history" dealer today. Note that anyone with an old cover calls them postal history.

He has something like 5000 lots that he's "auctioning off". He has created a list like you'd receive on paper in the 1970s... not a single picture of any cover he's offering! I'm calling this 1999 because he at least has the lots listed on a web page, and it reminds me of the very beginnings of eBay before people had digital cameras and scanners. If you'd like to see what you are bidding on he will do this...

PHOTOCOPIES: Because condition is such an important factor for most postal history material, bidders are encouraged to request photocopies of lots of interest. For photocopies, follow these instructions exactly:
Send a self-addressed stamped envelope, plus:
- 10 cents per each black & white copy requested (standard-sized cover or postcard item.)
- 60 cents per each COLOR copy requested (standard-sized cover or postcard item.)
- $1.50 per each COLOR PHOTOGRAPH requested (three-dimensional items.)
- Include proportionate payment for oversized items, letter contents, multiple-piece lots, etc.
Be sure that your return envelope is franked with adequate postage. You MUST include postage and payment with your photocopy request, as we are unable to invoice you for our photocopy service.
NOTE: All requests for PHOTOCOPIES must be made by MAIL ONLY.
PLEASE DO NOT request photocopies via email, fax or telephone.
We ask you to limit your copy requests to those items on which you are seriously considering placing bids.


He is treading around the year 2000 with his Earth shattering new service:


We are now offering our new "Cover Scan" service to internet users.

HERE'S WHAT WE'LL DO...

We'll scan color images of any covers, postcards or other flat paper items that are listed in our sales and transmit them to you as attachments to an email message. All images will be scanned at 100 DPI/100% (or LESSER DPI and LESSER percent, at your request) and transmitted as "gif" file attachments. At the same time, we will transmit a "carbon copy" of the message and the attachment to our own email address to verify that the transmission was correctly processed by our equipment and our server.

HERE'S WHAT YOU NEED TO DO...

First of all, read this page - right down to the last word. If you request the Cover Scan service, you will be indicating that you have read, understood, and agree to comply with all of the conditions explained here. This page appears only on our internet web site.

Next, verify that your equipment, your server, your browser and your computer programs are all capable of displaying "gif" files that have been attached to email messages. Our server assures us that this is all of the information that you will need in order to determine whether this service will work for you and whether you will be able to view the scans.

Please DO NOT contact us with questions about your equipment, your server, your browser or your computer programs. We are in the postal history business, not the computer business, and we are not qualified to offer any opinions about whether or not this service is going to work for you. Those questions must be directed to computer experts, not postal history dealers.
(or ask any small child!)

Once you have determined that you're equipped to use the Cover Scan service, then do the following:

- Make a list of the lots that you want to have scanned.
- Via REGULAR MAIL ONLY, send that list, along with a check or money order for $ 5.00 (U.S.) per each three items to be scanned, and a SELF-ADDRESSED STAMPED ENVELOPE, along with your CORRECT EMAIL ADDRESS,


Note he still wants you to use USPS MAIL to send payment for scans. ARGH!

His pricing and terms are also way out there. His cover pricing is several times any market value and his terms for bidding are probably illegal, and done manually so I'd be suspect.

I don't know how he does any business! He has some decent stuff, if only it was all properly scanned and posted online at eBay or any of the other Internet sites his competition use.

Man oh man!

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28 Aug 2018
10:53:47pm

re: Party Like It's 1999

Sounds like someone stuck in the 90's for sure!

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michael78651

28 Aug 2018
11:34:06pm

re: Party Like It's 1999

Probably one of the last dinosaur dealers still around. He probably gets his business from a few of the remaining dinosaur collectors still clinging around who don't know what the internet is, except a thing full of fraud, theft, porn, and little else.

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StampWrangler

28 Aug 2018
11:51:34pm

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Amazed if he sells a single item.

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smauggie

29 Aug 2018
10:36:30am

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I know who you are talking about. I have seen his catalogs. I know a couple of people who buy from them, but have chosen not to do so myself.

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lemaven

29 Aug 2018
02:56:46pm

re: Party Like It's 1999

"Amazed if he sells a single item."



Looking at his offering and price list, I suspect he doesn't expect to (or even hope to) sell anything!

It seems more like a scam to get some gullible people to "pay me to show you what I'm selling, so I don't have to incur any costs to do so, and then if you decide to buy I can always say sorry but those items have already been sold while you waited to receive my scans".

Unfortunately, there is always room for people to prey on the desperate, unsophisticated, and overly-trusting in our society. Like Gwyneth Paltrow and her "Goop" & "Jade Egg" crap.

Sad, Sad, Sad ...

Dave.

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Winedrinker

30 Aug 2018
08:33:05pm

re: Party Like It's 1999

Dave, I love Gwyneth as an actress, she does good work. But her Goop recommendations are... crap. A curated offering of highly overpriced crap. It pains me to say so, as I am very fond of her work. Especially the Wes Anderson movies.

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lemaven

31 Aug 2018
04:13:04pm

re: Party Like It's 1999

Eric:

Count me in as thinking Gwyneth is a good actress - and a surprisingly really good singer (I had to sit through "Glee" with my 2 teenage daughters).

But I despair for our current celebrity culture where absolute "fake news/research" can be spread by an actor - being taken more seriously on some health issues, while making way more money for themselves than legitimate doctors and researchers (another one is Jenna McCarthy and her "vaccinations cause autism fable based on well-debunked fake research). And reality stars who do the same...

But, as PT Barnum said,

"Nobody ever lost a dollar by underestimating the taste {or was it "intelligence"?} of the American public."


and

"There's a sucker born every minute."



It's just too bad that some people throw their money away so easily...

Dave.




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musicman

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09 Sep 2018
10:36:21am

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.....and it KINDA sounds as if he is collecting current stamps on cover this way...

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11 Sep 2018
11:30:49am

re: Party Like It's 1999

" .... Like Gwyneth Paltrow and her "Goop"
& "Jade Egg" crap. ...."




I had never paid any attention to Gwyneth Paltrow's
private activities and recall little about her
beyond that she is a blonde actress of some renown,
and seemed to be too skinny to be healthy, in my opinion.
However, while driving back from Florida last weekend,
a comedian whose name escapes me now, explained,
in a skit that some would find to be excessively explicit,
( and I admit hilarious ), terms exactly
what "Goop" was advocating as the beneficial use of this
$80.00 "Jade Egg".
The things that never entered my mind, .... !!!

For the stout of heart, there is a Washington Post column that provides the actual details of the "Scam."

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