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United States/Covers & Postmarks : Stagecoach mail

 

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pigdoc

23 Aug 2018
06:15:42pm
An area that has captured my interest.

Here's one:
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Muessdorffer covers are not hard to find. This one is also an advertising cover. What I find interesting about them is that most of them show the sender's name, date, and...the order! This one was sent from their office in Sacramento to their office/factory in San Francisco, and then notated by the receiver, "Sac March 9/71, for L Slater, order soft silk, also ask RM". A different color ink underlines RM and adds another RM.

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The California State Library has an archive of JC's letters: "John Meussdorffer was born in (Kulmbach) Bavaria on April 9, 1823. He came from a family which had been making hats for several generations. He came to the Unted States in 1847 and California in 1849. He opened a hat business in San Francisco. The J. C. Meussdorffer Hat Manufacturing Company came to have branches in Sacramento, Marysville and Portland. Meussdorffer took his sons into partnership in 1877." According to the short description of his will in the December 29, 1894 San Francisco Call, he died a rich man.

Stagecoaches, in general, fascinate me.
-Paul

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pigdoc

12 Sep 2018
07:35:01pm
re: Stagecoach mail

Nobody has any stagecoach mail? Really?
Who collects American West postal history? It's a very rich area, if not a bit stratospheric pricewise when you get to some nice items.

Here's a Pony Express stamp, and its counterfeit, then:
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The fakes are obvious from a mile away if you look at the differences in the "WELLS, FARGO & CO" lettering.
The genuine stamp on the left might have a faked cancellation. This series of stamps is fun and easy to plate, also. I've enjoyed plating Pony Express stamps offered on eBay, just for the exercise, not intending to own them.

Scott Trepel's booklet, Wells, Fargo & Company 1861 Pony Express Issues is a great reference. You can find downloads on the web.

Show us your American West postal history!

-Paul



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pigdoc

11 Jan 2019
02:22:23pm
re: Stagecoach mail

Did I mention I love stagecoaches?

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Wells, Fargo has twelve history museums across the country, including one in Philadelphia.
Haven't been, yet.

Here's another envelope cut-out from my collection:
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The graphic appeal is irresistible!

Show us your early Western mail!

-Paul

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pigdoc

17 Sep 2019
10:54:49am
re: Stagecoach mail

...and still holds my interest.

I just finished a book on the Pony Express: West Like Lightning, The Brief Legendary Ride of the Pony Express (2018) by Jim DeFelice. It's an interesting read, with lots of context. The main plot line (if non-fiction can have a plot) is the delivery of the news of Lincoln's election to Sacramento. Lots of detail on the stations, including an exhaustive Appendix.

And then, just for fun, I did a little search that I hadn't done for awhile. Result was that I landed this baby, Scott 142LP2:
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When compared to the image published in Scott's Specialized, I can find no deviations in the design from genuine. Framelines are particularly diagnostic. However, the apparent ink smears lead me to wonder if it was salvaged from printer's waste. Kinda shabby.

Here's a counterfeit for comparison:
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Interested in others' opinions on this one!
-Paul


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16 Aug 2020
11:40:14am
re: Stagecoach mail

Paul,
There is an exhibit, Western Expresses, on Richard Frajola's Philamercury Digital Rendezvous 2020 (PDR2020).
https://www.rfrajola.com/PDR2020/KS1/KS1.pdf

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pigdoc

23 Aug 2018
06:15:42pm

An area that has captured my interest.

Here's one:
Image Not Found

Muessdorffer covers are not hard to find. This one is also an advertising cover. What I find interesting about them is that most of them show the sender's name, date, and...the order! This one was sent from their office in Sacramento to their office/factory in San Francisco, and then notated by the receiver, "Sac March 9/71, for L Slater, order soft silk, also ask RM". A different color ink underlines RM and adds another RM.

Image Not Found

The California State Library has an archive of JC's letters: "John Meussdorffer was born in (Kulmbach) Bavaria on April 9, 1823. He came from a family which had been making hats for several generations. He came to the Unted States in 1847 and California in 1849. He opened a hat business in San Francisco. The J. C. Meussdorffer Hat Manufacturing Company came to have branches in Sacramento, Marysville and Portland. Meussdorffer took his sons into partnership in 1877." According to the short description of his will in the December 29, 1894 San Francisco Call, he died a rich man.

Stagecoaches, in general, fascinate me.
-Paul

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pigdoc

12 Sep 2018
07:35:01pm

re: Stagecoach mail

Nobody has any stagecoach mail? Really?
Who collects American West postal history? It's a very rich area, if not a bit stratospheric pricewise when you get to some nice items.

Here's a Pony Express stamp, and its counterfeit, then:
Image Not Found

The fakes are obvious from a mile away if you look at the differences in the "WELLS, FARGO & CO" lettering.
The genuine stamp on the left might have a faked cancellation. This series of stamps is fun and easy to plate, also. I've enjoyed plating Pony Express stamps offered on eBay, just for the exercise, not intending to own them.

Scott Trepel's booklet, Wells, Fargo & Company 1861 Pony Express Issues is a great reference. You can find downloads on the web.

Show us your American West postal history!

-Paul



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pigdoc

11 Jan 2019
02:22:23pm

re: Stagecoach mail

Did I mention I love stagecoaches?

Image Not Found

Wells, Fargo has twelve history museums across the country, including one in Philadelphia.
Haven't been, yet.

Here's another envelope cut-out from my collection:
Image Not Found

The graphic appeal is irresistible!

Show us your early Western mail!

-Paul

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pigdoc

17 Sep 2019
10:54:49am

re: Stagecoach mail

...and still holds my interest.

I just finished a book on the Pony Express: West Like Lightning, The Brief Legendary Ride of the Pony Express (2018) by Jim DeFelice. It's an interesting read, with lots of context. The main plot line (if non-fiction can have a plot) is the delivery of the news of Lincoln's election to Sacramento. Lots of detail on the stations, including an exhaustive Appendix.

And then, just for fun, I did a little search that I hadn't done for awhile. Result was that I landed this baby, Scott 142LP2:
Image Not Found
When compared to the image published in Scott's Specialized, I can find no deviations in the design from genuine. Framelines are particularly diagnostic. However, the apparent ink smears lead me to wonder if it was salvaged from printer's waste. Kinda shabby.

Here's a counterfeit for comparison:
Image Not Found

Interested in others' opinions on this one!
-Paul


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vinman

16 Aug 2020
11:40:14am

re: Stagecoach mail

Paul,
There is an exhibit, Western Expresses, on Richard Frajola's Philamercury Digital Rendezvous 2020 (PDR2020).
https://www.rfrajola.com/PDR2020/KS1/KS1.pdf

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