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General Philatelic/Identify This? : two old GB covers fronts and backs shown

 

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capetown

13 Aug 2018
05:24:32pm
Image Not FoundHow can you identify these two penny reds without having the option of watermarking them as they are on cover. Maybe someone can recognize them.
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13 Aug 2018
06:01:43pm
re: two old GB covers fronts and backs shown

What identifying are you wanting?

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capetown

13 Aug 2018
10:32:34pm
re: two old GB covers fronts and backs shown

the i.d. I am looking for are Scott numbers, though I can see that would be very difficult as there are quite a few varieties of both stamps.

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13 Aug 2018
11:25:45pm
re: two old GB covers fronts and backs shown

Not difficult at all. Based on the date on the covers, there is only one choice for each of the stamps, although the images are not clear enough for identification from other aspects.

The blue cover appears to carry an imperforate stamp. There is only one choice: #3

The white cover carries a perforated 1d stamp. Based on the 1854 date, it can only be #8 (perf 16 on bluish paper). The other varieties of this stamp were all issued in 1855 or later (according to Scott).

You may find this 6 year old thread useful:
Great Britain Penny Reds : A short tutorial

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capetown

14 Aug 2018
11:47:55pm
re: two old GB covers fronts and backs shown

Thank you sir! Much obliged for the info. It seems strange that the blue cover has two postmarks on the back, one 1831 and one 1851. I thought the first postage stamp was issued in 1840.
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14 Aug 2018
11:55:02pm
re: two old GB covers fronts and backs shown

They are both "51". The red postmark is doubled, making the 5 look like a 3. It is most noticeable on the "7" of Jun 7. Note both postmarks are the same day.

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13 Aug 2018
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Image Not FoundHow can you identify these two penny reds without having the option of watermarking them as they are on cover. Maybe someone can recognize them.
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13 Aug 2018
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re: two old GB covers fronts and backs shown

What identifying are you wanting?

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capetown

13 Aug 2018
10:32:34pm

re: two old GB covers fronts and backs shown

the i.d. I am looking for are Scott numbers, though I can see that would be very difficult as there are quite a few varieties of both stamps.

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BuckaCover.com - 80,000 covers priced 60c to $1.50 - Easy browsing 500 categories
13 Aug 2018
11:25:45pm

re: two old GB covers fronts and backs shown

Not difficult at all. Based on the date on the covers, there is only one choice for each of the stamps, although the images are not clear enough for identification from other aspects.

The blue cover appears to carry an imperforate stamp. There is only one choice: #3

The white cover carries a perforated 1d stamp. Based on the 1854 date, it can only be #8 (perf 16 on bluish paper). The other varieties of this stamp were all issued in 1855 or later (according to Scott).

You may find this 6 year old thread useful:
Great Britain Penny Reds : A short tutorial

Roy

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"BuckaCover.com - Since 2003 - Over One million covers sold - What have you been missing?"

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capetown

14 Aug 2018
11:47:55pm

re: two old GB covers fronts and backs shown

Thank you sir! Much obliged for the info. It seems strange that the blue cover has two postmarks on the back, one 1831 and one 1851. I thought the first postage stamp was issued in 1840.
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BuckaCover.com - 80,000 covers priced 60c to $1.50 - Easy browsing 500 categories
14 Aug 2018
11:55:02pm

re: two old GB covers fronts and backs shown

They are both "51". The red postmark is doubled, making the 5 look like a 3. It is most noticeable on the "7" of Jun 7. Note both postmarks are the same day.

Roy

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"BuckaCover.com - Since 2003 - Over One million covers sold - What have you been missing?"

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