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Well known for it's beautiful stamps, Monaco is another country tat it is hard to pick a most beautiful page. My favorite page has always been the first page so it is my pick for
today. I also just added the mint 15 cent of the first set today
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For today I'm showing the second page of airmails from Greece. Greece is one of the hardest countries to collect but it has a great history to work from. Not surprisingly, with all of it's art to work with, they have consistently produced very beautiful stamps. This page is only one of many beautiful pages from Greece.
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Wow. Just wow! 
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Very nice page Mitch. 
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For today, the most beautiful page from Greenland, which happens to be the first page.
http://mitch.seymourfamily.com/mward/collection/scandinavia/greenland/greenland.html
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The page/set for today is from 1945 Switzerland celebrating peace after WWII
http://mitch.seymourfamily.com/mward/collection/europe/switzerland/swiss.html
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My first thought was: What were they so happy about?!? Swiss bankers made out like robber-barons during WWII, profiting from both sides. And, of course, we've all heard the stories of how they wouldn't disclose the existance of all those nazi accounts they held.
And I should qualify this by saying I don't believe the Swiss are anything but fine and decent people who abhor war as any civilized folk should, but those bankers, like bankers everywhere, were just plain scum, and sullied the good name of Switzerland...as they do everywhere else.
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For today is this beautifully engraved page/set from 1930 Algeria.
http://mitch.seymourfamily.com/mward/collection/africa/algeria/algeria.html
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Beautiful color in those stamps. Thanks for sharing.
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Those are beautiful Algerian stamps, Mitch. I have been fairly casually assembling a collection of Algerian stamps related to the Algerian war for independence, which followed the First Indochina War; in fact, many French Army survivors of the war in Indochina were thrust into the Algerian War. Then, of course, there was the Vietnam War, which was a legacy of the French colonization of Indochina.
Some of the more interesting Algerian stamps, to me anyway, are French issues overprinted with the letters "E.A.," for Etat Algerian (Algerian State). They're unusual stamps in that the overprints are all local and applied with few regulations in place. Different fonts, colours, and clarity are common. It seems to me that they would be very easy to forge, but I've never seen any cautionary catalogue notes about fakes.
Here's a cover from my collection:
The designs of one set of French stamps was used to create Algerian stamps. The following three stamps illustrate a French stamp, an overprinted French stamp, and the Algerian version of the same design:
If you have any of these stamps in your albums, I'd very much like to see the album pages you have created.
Bob
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Bob, Thanks for sharing, they are interesting. As for most French Colonies, I only collect up to independence so these would be right at my cut off point. That is not to say that I would not include them in my collection if I found a nice grouping of them in the future.
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Cut-off dates are important. I quit trying to keep up to date with my Denmark and Eire collections when I started spending more on new album pages than the stamps would ever be worth (not that catalogue value or even street value of stamps ever figured into my collecting choices). In addition, I became more interested in postal history than stamps. Anyway...
I'd like to thank you for opening my eyes to the value of displaying complete sets. I have bought many sets of stamps because one or two stamps in the set fit into my topical/thematic collections. I'd create album pages or exhibit sheets for the one of two stamps of interest, and the rest would go into a stock book or I'd sell them at my stamp club. But in looking through your album pages, I see how complete sets create a visual treat and even put all of the stamps in each set in context. I think what I'll start doing, at least for my web pages, is to include images of individual stamps to illustrate the stories I'm telling, and include links to images of the complete sets.
Bob
P.S. I just had a thought: There's a continuing discussion here at Stamporama about collecting the first issues of every country. I think that an interesting collecting could be made of the first issues of the new, post-colonial nations of the 20th Century. My Algeria collection would provide just such stamps.
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Bob, It is often times hard finding a cut off date. As time goes on we find good reason to move them up. First issues to me often seem the most compelling and I've often times moved the cut of dates to include first issues of independence but usually only when I find a mostly complete collection of those first few years. When a cut off date is established I will most always try to find every Scott listed items within those parameters. Of course there are sometimes early sets that are illusive and quite expensive that I could never afford so do not bother looking for.
For today is a beautiful airmail set from Uruguay. Uruguay is one of my favorite countries to collect partly for the any beautiful stamps it has issued. Again it was a difficult choice, so much so that I'm going to add a beautiful page of regulars as well.
http://mitch.seymourfamily.com/mward/collection/samerica/uruguay/uruguay.html
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Thanks for all those. I've hardly ever seen stamps from Uruguay, and the ones I have seen have been reasonably ugly, so it's enjoyable to know that they have had their moments - and many of them.
What makes Greek stamps so difficult? I have a pile of them sitting around waiting for me to spew out some album pages, and though I probably have easy ones, I'd like to know what kind of pratfalls I'm in for.
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Eggdog, Regarding the difficulty of collecting Greece. I collect the whole world with a high level of completion so I have a very good idea of what countries are difficult. Besides the U.S. Western Europe has always been my main area of focus with most countries well over 99% complete. Spain, Great Britain. Portugal and Greece are pretty much the most difficult countries to complete for WE. The large Hermes heads from Greece, which there are at least 12 different sets are arguably the most difficult series of stamps in the world to identify correctly. Scott does a very poor job in showing all of them. Greek stamps in general are valued higher than most countries and there are many that are rarely seen at all. It takes a lot of work to make a good showing for Greece.
http://mitch.seymourfamily.com/mward/collection/europe/greece/greece.html
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For today is a beautiful page from Liechtenstein. They have many somewhat primative folksy
designs you would expect from a small mountain country.
http://mitch.seymourfamily.com/mward/collection/europe/liechtenstein/liechtenstein.html
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For today a nice page of Semi Postals from the Dutch Indies.
http://mitch.seymourfamily.com/mward/collection/asia/dindies/dindies.html
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Thanks for your reply, AntoniusRa. I have another question: if I could purchase only one specialized catalog of Greek stamps, which one, in your opinion should I go for?
The reason I ask is that, by coincidence, I had a chance to purchase a collection of 19th-century Greece at what looked like a favorable price. Taking your words into account, having a sense of what I'm in for, and being fairly certain that I lack the skills and judgement to do justice to this find, of course I jumped all over it. Now I'd better get on the stick and start learning the ropes, keeping my shoulder to the wheel and all my clichés in a row.
Thanks again.
PS I like those Dutch Indies stamps as much as I like Dutch stamps of the 1930s, which is a lot.
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Eddie, It's not an easy question to answer since I now little about what you are collecting
and how seriously. I see that you collect Poland and some or all of the Balkans Do you collect Romania Bulgaria and the rest of the Balkans. Do you specialize in your collections or mostly fill spaces in albums that have the stamps of the country represented, or in a general World Wide albums. I assume you are becoming interested in Greece is because it fits in with the Balkans. If you collect most of the countries I mentioned then should already have a Scott Classic Specialized Catalog because it covers the countries to collect nicely. The second catalog I would recommend is the Hellas Catalog by A Karamitos. Karamitos is the biggest name in Greek philately. It is published in Greece but it is printed in English as well Greek. Soft cover, 2 Volumes 2nd volume is B.O.B. Crete etc. color pics. It covers the Lg Hermes heads quite thoroughly devoting the first 40 pages to them and the next 32 to the Small heads. There is lots of info on the web so most info is just a google away
So what this comes down to, are you going to be serious, investing many thousands of dollars into the collection or much less?
When you answer that question you can proceed in finding the albums and catalogs you'll want.
In my world collection I like to have a space for every Scott listed stamp.
I find used Scott Specialized albums that have many stamps included. I end up with pages and a good start of mounted stamps at fraction of what you can but new pages for. Many countries I will make new pages of the earlier issues to show different varieties. Steiner pages are a pretty good option for Greece because you can easily make you own custom pages.
I'd be interested in seeing the collection you bought. Could you email some scans for the
first few pages. You can see my Greece collection as well my Balkans and the rest of the world by clicking the link below
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I just wanted to mention that I look forward to your pages each and everyday.
For me, who has mainly collected Southern African British Colonial (my bible is SG's Commonwealth & British Empire Stamp Catalogue 1840-1970), it is an eye opener to see the stunning sets of stamps you post from around the world.
The hardest part is restraining myself from chasing after a new collecting interest each time you post a page.
Clive
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Clive, Thanks! Getting people interested in collecting other countries was one of the main reasons I started my collection site in the first place. I've always collected the whole world since I was 7 years old but don't have much interest in the Mid East and some other modern countries. My father also collects stamps of the U.S. Canada, Great Britain and the British Empire and all of these were in Scott Specialty albums. However he was not into it as I am. He'll be 90 this time next month and except for Machins and new U.S. he has stopped collecting the rest and given those collections to me. I had been waiting for this time to begin concentrating on G.B and empire. The last couple years I have been working on early Great Britain and have got it down to the "Usual Suspects" I've also been working on New Zealand and to a lesser extent Australia, both of which are fairly respectable now. The next big plunge will be into the colonies. My dad's collection was pretty complete for the modern issues, post 1940, so most of the work needs to be on the costlier older issues, which without doubt is the hardest area in the world to collect.
I've got a pretty much full set of S.G catalogs for G.B and empire and I do find them very useful and I would not collect the area without them.
Surely, you can find an excuse to collect another country or two!
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Eastern Rumelia (also known as South Bulgaria and Northern Thrace) was a province of Turkey It received autonomous province status by the treaty of Berlin in 1878. They imprinted stamps of Turkey for their own use. in 1885 a bloodless revolution resulted with ER being annexed by Bulgaria. There are many forgeries of these issues. I got most of mine by buying a dealers stock around 30 years ago. Most of them have expertizer marks on them. I also had and expert look at them a long while ago and he only found a few bogus items
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The famous Peace and Commerce issues from France were usually used for it's colonies first issues. Some were overprinted then later inscribed with the colony's Name. There are several of these colonies which only have a first set. These Island colonies were usually absorbed by larger close Island as this one was incorporated with Madagascar in 1896.
It's a lovely set and is pretty easy to complete. You can probably pick up the colony/set for around a $100.00
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Mitch, thanks for your valuable comments. I've been unable to reply for a few days.
I do like the Balkans, and Greece does tie into that. A few years ago, I found myself in the position of being a full-time househusband with more time on my hands than I knew what to do with. I managed to get my hands on a Bulgarian collection and loved it; seeing all those people on these stamps that I'd never seen before and asking myself, "Who are these guys?", I ended up learning a lot about Bulgaria. The Balkans have traditionally had malleable national borders, and one of my fascinations has become postmarks from places like, for instance, a town that was in Serbia when that letter was mailed but is in Kosovo today.
The Hermes head collection isn't in my hands yet; I purchased it from a dealer sight unseen, but everything I've gotten from this dealer has met or exceeded my expectations, so I decided it was worth taking a plunge on a more intricate or, uh, Byzantine item. Typically, intense study of varieties and printing types isn't my biggest interest, but I was at the New York stamp show a couple of years ago and one of the exhibits had a wealth of Hermes heads. They hypnotized me. I don't know why, but I loved those things.
So I would describe myself as a moderately serious collector with an interest in cultural history and some deficiencies in impulse control. (My father was a serious collector in his younger days, but his collection disappeared into thin air while he was in the service. He thinks he knows which relative stole them but he couldn't prove a thing, and he still doesn't like to talk about stamps.)
Oh, yeah: I found Volume I of Karamitos on Bookfinder for $20, so I said, "Why not?" I think it was a 2007.
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eggdog, Good to hear back from you. Hope you will keep me informed with some scans of your
beginings of you Greek collection.
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For today a beautiful page of stamps from Ecuador.
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Well known for it's beautiful stamps, Monaco is another country tat it is hard to pick a most beautiful page. My favorite page has always been the first page so it is my pick for
today. I also just added the mint 15 cent of the first set today
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For today I'm showing the second page of airmails from Greece. Greece is one of the hardest countries to collect but it has a great history to work from. Not surprisingly, with all of it's art to work with, they have consistently produced very beautiful stamps. This page is only one of many beautiful pages from Greece.
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Wow. Just wow!
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Very nice page Mitch.
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For today, the most beautiful page from Greenland, which happens to be the first page.
http://mitch.seymourfamily.com/mward/collection/scandinavia/greenland/greenland.html
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The page/set for today is from 1945 Switzerland celebrating peace after WWII
http://mitch.seymourfamily.com/mward/collection/europe/switzerland/swiss.html
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My first thought was: What were they so happy about?!? Swiss bankers made out like robber-barons during WWII, profiting from both sides. And, of course, we've all heard the stories of how they wouldn't disclose the existance of all those nazi accounts they held.
And I should qualify this by saying I don't believe the Swiss are anything but fine and decent people who abhor war as any civilized folk should, but those bankers, like bankers everywhere, were just plain scum, and sullied the good name of Switzerland...as they do everywhere else.
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For today is this beautifully engraved page/set from 1930 Algeria.
http://mitch.seymourfamily.com/mward/collection/africa/algeria/algeria.html
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Beautiful color in those stamps. Thanks for sharing.
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Those are beautiful Algerian stamps, Mitch. I have been fairly casually assembling a collection of Algerian stamps related to the Algerian war for independence, which followed the First Indochina War; in fact, many French Army survivors of the war in Indochina were thrust into the Algerian War. Then, of course, there was the Vietnam War, which was a legacy of the French colonization of Indochina.
Some of the more interesting Algerian stamps, to me anyway, are French issues overprinted with the letters "E.A.," for Etat Algerian (Algerian State). They're unusual stamps in that the overprints are all local and applied with few regulations in place. Different fonts, colours, and clarity are common. It seems to me that they would be very easy to forge, but I've never seen any cautionary catalogue notes about fakes.
Here's a cover from my collection:
The designs of one set of French stamps was used to create Algerian stamps. The following three stamps illustrate a French stamp, an overprinted French stamp, and the Algerian version of the same design:
If you have any of these stamps in your albums, I'd very much like to see the album pages you have created.
Bob
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Bob, Thanks for sharing, they are interesting. As for most French Colonies, I only collect up to independence so these would be right at my cut off point. That is not to say that I would not include them in my collection if I found a nice grouping of them in the future.
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Cut-off dates are important. I quit trying to keep up to date with my Denmark and Eire collections when I started spending more on new album pages than the stamps would ever be worth (not that catalogue value or even street value of stamps ever figured into my collecting choices). In addition, I became more interested in postal history than stamps. Anyway...
I'd like to thank you for opening my eyes to the value of displaying complete sets. I have bought many sets of stamps because one or two stamps in the set fit into my topical/thematic collections. I'd create album pages or exhibit sheets for the one of two stamps of interest, and the rest would go into a stock book or I'd sell them at my stamp club. But in looking through your album pages, I see how complete sets create a visual treat and even put all of the stamps in each set in context. I think what I'll start doing, at least for my web pages, is to include images of individual stamps to illustrate the stories I'm telling, and include links to images of the complete sets.
Bob
P.S. I just had a thought: There's a continuing discussion here at Stamporama about collecting the first issues of every country. I think that an interesting collecting could be made of the first issues of the new, post-colonial nations of the 20th Century. My Algeria collection would provide just such stamps.
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Bob, It is often times hard finding a cut off date. As time goes on we find good reason to move them up. First issues to me often seem the most compelling and I've often times moved the cut of dates to include first issues of independence but usually only when I find a mostly complete collection of those first few years. When a cut off date is established I will most always try to find every Scott listed items within those parameters. Of course there are sometimes early sets that are illusive and quite expensive that I could never afford so do not bother looking for.
For today is a beautiful airmail set from Uruguay. Uruguay is one of my favorite countries to collect partly for the any beautiful stamps it has issued. Again it was a difficult choice, so much so that I'm going to add a beautiful page of regulars as well.
http://mitch.seymourfamily.com/mward/collection/samerica/uruguay/uruguay.html
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Thanks for all those. I've hardly ever seen stamps from Uruguay, and the ones I have seen have been reasonably ugly, so it's enjoyable to know that they have had their moments - and many of them.
What makes Greek stamps so difficult? I have a pile of them sitting around waiting for me to spew out some album pages, and though I probably have easy ones, I'd like to know what kind of pratfalls I'm in for.
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Eggdog, Regarding the difficulty of collecting Greece. I collect the whole world with a high level of completion so I have a very good idea of what countries are difficult. Besides the U.S. Western Europe has always been my main area of focus with most countries well over 99% complete. Spain, Great Britain. Portugal and Greece are pretty much the most difficult countries to complete for WE. The large Hermes heads from Greece, which there are at least 12 different sets are arguably the most difficult series of stamps in the world to identify correctly. Scott does a very poor job in showing all of them. Greek stamps in general are valued higher than most countries and there are many that are rarely seen at all. It takes a lot of work to make a good showing for Greece.
http://mitch.seymourfamily.com/mward/collection/europe/greece/greece.html
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For today is a beautiful page from Liechtenstein. They have many somewhat primative folksy
designs you would expect from a small mountain country.
http://mitch.seymourfamily.com/mward/collection/europe/liechtenstein/liechtenstein.html
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For today a nice page of Semi Postals from the Dutch Indies.
http://mitch.seymourfamily.com/mward/collection/asia/dindies/dindies.html
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Thanks for your reply, AntoniusRa. I have another question: if I could purchase only one specialized catalog of Greek stamps, which one, in your opinion should I go for?
The reason I ask is that, by coincidence, I had a chance to purchase a collection of 19th-century Greece at what looked like a favorable price. Taking your words into account, having a sense of what I'm in for, and being fairly certain that I lack the skills and judgement to do justice to this find, of course I jumped all over it. Now I'd better get on the stick and start learning the ropes, keeping my shoulder to the wheel and all my clichés in a row.
Thanks again.
PS I like those Dutch Indies stamps as much as I like Dutch stamps of the 1930s, which is a lot.
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Eddie, It's not an easy question to answer since I now little about what you are collecting
and how seriously. I see that you collect Poland and some or all of the Balkans Do you collect Romania Bulgaria and the rest of the Balkans. Do you specialize in your collections or mostly fill spaces in albums that have the stamps of the country represented, or in a general World Wide albums. I assume you are becoming interested in Greece is because it fits in with the Balkans. If you collect most of the countries I mentioned then should already have a Scott Classic Specialized Catalog because it covers the countries to collect nicely. The second catalog I would recommend is the Hellas Catalog by A Karamitos. Karamitos is the biggest name in Greek philately. It is published in Greece but it is printed in English as well Greek. Soft cover, 2 Volumes 2nd volume is B.O.B. Crete etc. color pics. It covers the Lg Hermes heads quite thoroughly devoting the first 40 pages to them and the next 32 to the Small heads. There is lots of info on the web so most info is just a google away
So what this comes down to, are you going to be serious, investing many thousands of dollars into the collection or much less?
When you answer that question you can proceed in finding the albums and catalogs you'll want.
In my world collection I like to have a space for every Scott listed stamp.
I find used Scott Specialized albums that have many stamps included. I end up with pages and a good start of mounted stamps at fraction of what you can but new pages for. Many countries I will make new pages of the earlier issues to show different varieties. Steiner pages are a pretty good option for Greece because you can easily make you own custom pages.
I'd be interested in seeing the collection you bought. Could you email some scans for the
first few pages. You can see my Greece collection as well my Balkans and the rest of the world by clicking the link below
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I just wanted to mention that I look forward to your pages each and everyday.
For me, who has mainly collected Southern African British Colonial (my bible is SG's Commonwealth & British Empire Stamp Catalogue 1840-1970), it is an eye opener to see the stunning sets of stamps you post from around the world.
The hardest part is restraining myself from chasing after a new collecting interest each time you post a page.
Clive
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Clive, Thanks! Getting people interested in collecting other countries was one of the main reasons I started my collection site in the first place. I've always collected the whole world since I was 7 years old but don't have much interest in the Mid East and some other modern countries. My father also collects stamps of the U.S. Canada, Great Britain and the British Empire and all of these were in Scott Specialty albums. However he was not into it as I am. He'll be 90 this time next month and except for Machins and new U.S. he has stopped collecting the rest and given those collections to me. I had been waiting for this time to begin concentrating on G.B and empire. The last couple years I have been working on early Great Britain and have got it down to the "Usual Suspects" I've also been working on New Zealand and to a lesser extent Australia, both of which are fairly respectable now. The next big plunge will be into the colonies. My dad's collection was pretty complete for the modern issues, post 1940, so most of the work needs to be on the costlier older issues, which without doubt is the hardest area in the world to collect.
I've got a pretty much full set of S.G catalogs for G.B and empire and I do find them very useful and I would not collect the area without them.
Surely, you can find an excuse to collect another country or two!
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Eastern Rumelia (also known as South Bulgaria and Northern Thrace) was a province of Turkey It received autonomous province status by the treaty of Berlin in 1878. They imprinted stamps of Turkey for their own use. in 1885 a bloodless revolution resulted with ER being annexed by Bulgaria. There are many forgeries of these issues. I got most of mine by buying a dealers stock around 30 years ago. Most of them have expertizer marks on them. I also had and expert look at them a long while ago and he only found a few bogus items
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The famous Peace and Commerce issues from France were usually used for it's colonies first issues. Some were overprinted then later inscribed with the colony's Name. There are several of these colonies which only have a first set. These Island colonies were usually absorbed by larger close Island as this one was incorporated with Madagascar in 1896.
It's a lovely set and is pretty easy to complete. You can probably pick up the colony/set for around a $100.00
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Mitch, thanks for your valuable comments. I've been unable to reply for a few days.
I do like the Balkans, and Greece does tie into that. A few years ago, I found myself in the position of being a full-time househusband with more time on my hands than I knew what to do with. I managed to get my hands on a Bulgarian collection and loved it; seeing all those people on these stamps that I'd never seen before and asking myself, "Who are these guys?", I ended up learning a lot about Bulgaria. The Balkans have traditionally had malleable national borders, and one of my fascinations has become postmarks from places like, for instance, a town that was in Serbia when that letter was mailed but is in Kosovo today.
The Hermes head collection isn't in my hands yet; I purchased it from a dealer sight unseen, but everything I've gotten from this dealer has met or exceeded my expectations, so I decided it was worth taking a plunge on a more intricate or, uh, Byzantine item. Typically, intense study of varieties and printing types isn't my biggest interest, but I was at the New York stamp show a couple of years ago and one of the exhibits had a wealth of Hermes heads. They hypnotized me. I don't know why, but I loved those things.
So I would describe myself as a moderately serious collector with an interest in cultural history and some deficiencies in impulse control. (My father was a serious collector in his younger days, but his collection disappeared into thin air while he was in the service. He thinks he knows which relative stole them but he couldn't prove a thing, and he still doesn't like to talk about stamps.)
Oh, yeah: I found Volume I of Karamitos on Bookfinder for $20, so I said, "Why not?" I think it was a 2007.
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eggdog, Good to hear back from you. Hope you will keep me informed with some scans of your
beginings of you Greek collection.
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For today a beautiful page of stamps from Ecuador.
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