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JohnnyRockets
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26 Jul 2018
09:29:42am
Hi all,

Is this item an example of postal stationery?


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The stamp is indeed part of the envelope.

I have started to collect PS, but if this is a true example then the amount of PS available to collect is much more vast that I realized and I'll have to fine tune my collecting interests potentially. Big Grin


Thanks!


JR


(edit) I'm thinking this may not be true PS as it is not "government issued"...???

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stampmankeith

26 Jul 2018
12:03:43pm
re: Is this an example of Postal Stationery?

From Linn's World Stamp Almanac "the term postal stationary refers to all types of forms and stationary issued by governments for either public or official government use. The most common types collected are; stamped envelopes, lettersheets, postal cards and letter cards. Although a stamp design is usually printed or printed and embossed on these to show that postage has been prepaid, some postal stationary does not carry such a stamp-like addition." Example change of address cards.

Your post card is government issued with a First Day cancellation and a add on cachet to honor the event. The cachets are privately added and very collectable.
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tomiseksj
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26 Jul 2018
12:06:23pm
re: Is this an example of Postal Stationery?

Your postal card, Scott UX174, was issued on February 12, 1994 in Springfield, Illinois.

The cachet is by House of Farnam (HF).

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26 Jul 2018
08:09:44pm
re: Is this an example of Postal Stationery?

Hi Tomiseksj,

Thanks for the ID!

What catalog are you using to look that up? If I don't have that catalog, I will soon! Winking


Hi Stampmansteve,

Hey, great, and that definition really helps!



Thanks to you both!


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Cactusjack
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27 Jul 2018
03:34:01am
re: Is this an example of Postal Stationery?

Hello Johnny,

U.S. Postal Cards are listed in the Scotts U.S. Specialized Catalog.

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27 Jul 2018
10:35:43am
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"U.S. Postal Cards are listed in the Scotts U.S. Specialized Catalog."


As are stamped envelopes and a host of other material that won't be listed in Scott's standard catalog (Vol 1.).
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27 Jul 2018
02:43:53pm
re: Is this an example of Postal Stationery?

Hi tomiseksj/Cactusjack,

GREAT!

Thank you!


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27 Jul 2018
05:48:42pm
re: Is this an example of Postal Stationery?

But, to clarify (hopefully!), the Scott US Specialized will *not* identify the cachetmaker, the way Steve did in his reply. I imagine that Steve recognized the cachetmaker's logo, "HF", and knew that that was House of Farnum Farnam*, or he had another reference.

So, to summarize, the Scott US Specialized *will* identify and provide a catalog value for postal stationery issued by the post office, including FDCs, but will not mention anything about cachets which were added after the fact by a private party.

There are specialized catalogs published by others who identify and price by cachetmaker. If my recollection is correct, Scott even published one at one time (I have one around here somewhere), but I don't think they publish it anymore.

I'm sure someone here actively collects US FDCs and would know what the best catalog options are now.

(Upon reflection, my post probably didn't summarize or clarify anything. I more than likely just added some confusion. My apologies.)

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* Thanks jrc531 for the correction! Much appreciated!

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27 Jul 2018
05:53:40pm
re: Is this an example of Postal Stationery?

Perhaps these two links from the AFDCS (American First Day Cover Society) might be helpful:

http://www.afdcs.org/fdcvalues.html

http://www.afdcs.org/learnaboutfdcs.html


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28 Jul 2018
08:37:28am
re: Is this an example of Postal Stationery?

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Just in passing, correct spelling is House of Farnam, no U. Please see attached for their letterhead and a cachet as proof.
Respectfully submitted:
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28 Jul 2018
09:09:15am
re: Is this an example of Postal Stationery?

You can see a large selection of postal stationery FDCs on BuckaCover.com under "USA First Day - Stationery"
https://www.buckacover.com/covers/search.php?code=usfdcstat

I am particularly fond of the the more attractive postal cards with historical themes, ships and aviation.

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28 Jul 2018
03:11:31pm
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Thanks very much for the correction, John/jrc531! I amended my post above and credited you.

And, as an aside, it looks like House of Farnam was just down the road from me during their Whittier years! (Whittier is about 15 miles from me.) Small world.

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JohnnyRockets

26 Jul 2018
09:29:42am

Hi all,

Is this item an example of postal stationery?


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The stamp is indeed part of the envelope.

I have started to collect PS, but if this is a true example then the amount of PS available to collect is much more vast that I realized and I'll have to fine tune my collecting interests potentially. Big Grin


Thanks!


JR


(edit) I'm thinking this may not be true PS as it is not "government issued"...???

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stampmankeith

26 Jul 2018
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re: Is this an example of Postal Stationery?

From Linn's World Stamp Almanac "the term postal stationary refers to all types of forms and stationary issued by governments for either public or official government use. The most common types collected are; stamped envelopes, lettersheets, postal cards and letter cards. Although a stamp design is usually printed or printed and embossed on these to show that postage has been prepaid, some postal stationary does not carry such a stamp-like addition." Example change of address cards.

Your post card is government issued with a First Day cancellation and a add on cachet to honor the event. The cachets are privately added and very collectable.
Keith

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tomiseksj

26 Jul 2018
12:06:23pm

re: Is this an example of Postal Stationery?

Your postal card, Scott UX174, was issued on February 12, 1994 in Springfield, Illinois.

The cachet is by House of Farnam (HF).

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26 Jul 2018
08:09:44pm

re: Is this an example of Postal Stationery?

Hi Tomiseksj,

Thanks for the ID!

What catalog are you using to look that up? If I don't have that catalog, I will soon! Winking


Hi Stampmansteve,

Hey, great, and that definition really helps!



Thanks to you both!


JR

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Cactusjack

27 Jul 2018
03:34:01am

re: Is this an example of Postal Stationery?

Hello Johnny,

U.S. Postal Cards are listed in the Scotts U.S. Specialized Catalog.

Jim

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tomiseksj

27 Jul 2018
10:35:43am

re: Is this an example of Postal Stationery?

"U.S. Postal Cards are listed in the Scotts U.S. Specialized Catalog."


As are stamped envelopes and a host of other material that won't be listed in Scott's standard catalog (Vol 1.).
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27 Jul 2018
02:43:53pm

re: Is this an example of Postal Stationery?

Hi tomiseksj/Cactusjack,

GREAT!

Thank you!


JR

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27 Jul 2018
05:48:42pm

re: Is this an example of Postal Stationery?

But, to clarify (hopefully!), the Scott US Specialized will *not* identify the cachetmaker, the way Steve did in his reply. I imagine that Steve recognized the cachetmaker's logo, "HF", and knew that that was House of Farnum Farnam*, or he had another reference.

So, to summarize, the Scott US Specialized *will* identify and provide a catalog value for postal stationery issued by the post office, including FDCs, but will not mention anything about cachets which were added after the fact by a private party.

There are specialized catalogs published by others who identify and price by cachetmaker. If my recollection is correct, Scott even published one at one time (I have one around here somewhere), but I don't think they publish it anymore.

I'm sure someone here actively collects US FDCs and would know what the best catalog options are now.

(Upon reflection, my post probably didn't summarize or clarify anything. I more than likely just added some confusion. My apologies.)

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* Thanks jrc531 for the correction! Much appreciated!

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27 Jul 2018
05:53:40pm

re: Is this an example of Postal Stationery?

Perhaps these two links from the AFDCS (American First Day Cover Society) might be helpful:

http://www.afdcs.org/fdcvalues.html

http://www.afdcs.org/learnaboutfdcs.html


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jrc531

28 Jul 2018
08:37:28am

re: Is this an example of Postal Stationery?

Image Not FoundPhilatarium:
Just in passing, correct spelling is House of Farnam, no U. Please see attached for their letterhead and a cachet as proof.
Respectfully submitted:
jrc531

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28 Jul 2018
09:09:15am

re: Is this an example of Postal Stationery?

You can see a large selection of postal stationery FDCs on BuckaCover.com under "USA First Day - Stationery"
https://www.buckacover.com/covers/search.php?code=usfdcstat

I am particularly fond of the the more attractive postal cards with historical themes, ships and aviation.

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28 Jul 2018
03:11:31pm

re: Is this an example of Postal Stationery?

Thanks very much for the correction, John/jrc531! I amended my post above and credited you.

And, as an aside, it looks like House of Farnam was just down the road from me during their Whittier years! (Whittier is about 15 miles from me.) Small world.

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