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I'm having a bit of trouble here. I really like folklore stamps, and have recently acquired these two based on the "Fox and Goose" folklore story.
What is the deal with these stamps?
They seem like an impossibility to me.
They are both from 1958.
According to my research, Saarland was given back to Germany at about that time.
This one is from Germany (Scott B360)
And this one is from Saarland (Scott B121)
So 2 questions:
1) Which one was issued first and did they just reuse the design?
2) Why does the Scott number for both Germany and Saarland start with the letter "B"?
Thank you all!
JR
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To start with B, the Scott catalogues list various categories of stamps with a letter prefix, e.g. B for Semi-postal stamps, C for Airmail stamps, etc. I expect they are all listed in any copy of Scotts, but you might find this old post from Linns of interest, especially the Table - Prefixes and suffixes used in Scott catalogs:
https://www.linns.com/insights/stamp-collecting-basics/2004/january/alphabet-soup--scott-catalog-prefixes-and-suffixes.html
Back to A. Both stamps were issued on April 1, 1958.
From November 1947 to July 1959 Saar used French currency. Issues from 1957 were authorised by the German Federal Republic pending the adoption of German currency on 6 July 1959, after which West German stamps were used. So separate issues showing the same stamps (with Saarland added) came out because of the different currency in use at that time.
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Hello from Sunny Florida:
I am happy to read that some collectors are interested in Folk Art on postage stamps. The fox and goose featured on the West Germany stamps are very interesting.
Please, if you can, provide a few more examples of Folk Art on postage stamps: World Wide. I collect Fine Art on postage stamps: my only rule is that the art featured on the stamp be from the issuing nation. There are far too many CTOs and series from nations who feature fine art from other countries that have absolutely nothing to do with their own national art production. (Eg: those interminable series from African and Island nations that should feature their very own art and not that of nations that, in many instances, colonized and exploited them.) Just saying...
Thank you! And then, of course, what does "Fox and Goose" have to do with German culture? And then, of course, one can compare the sterile interminable series of stamps that were being issued by East Germany at the same time... Did the East Germans issue Folk Art on their postage stamps?
Again, I appreciated your post!
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THE FOX WHO STOLE THE GOOSE
A children's nursery rhyme
Germany
(Accessed on 15 July 2018 from
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/10/german-nursery-rhyme-fox-steals-goose-banned-town-complaint/ )
Fox, You've Stolen the Goose
Fox, you've stolen the goose Give it back! Give it back! Or the hunter will get you With his gun, Or the hunter will get you With his gun.
His big, long gun, Takes a little shot at you, Takes a little shot at you, So, you're tinged with red And then you're dead. So, you're tinged with red And then you're dead.
Dear little fox, let me advise you: Don't be a thief, Don't be a thief, Don't take the roast goose, Be content with the mouse. Don't take the roast goose, Be content with the mouse.
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Hi Both!
Thank you for your VERY helpful replies, I have recorded these facts for my research.
I will also try to share more "folklore on stamps" in the future and there are A LOT more of these kinds of stamps than I realized, "out there" for sale!
Thanks again!
JR
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Hi all,
I'm having a bit of trouble here. I really like folklore stamps, and have recently acquired these two based on the "Fox and Goose" folklore story.
What is the deal with these stamps?
They seem like an impossibility to me.
They are both from 1958.
According to my research, Saarland was given back to Germany at about that time.
This one is from Germany (Scott B360)
And this one is from Saarland (Scott B121)
So 2 questions:
1) Which one was issued first and did they just reuse the design?
2) Why does the Scott number for both Germany and Saarland start with the letter "B"?
Thank you all!
JR
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03:19:03am
re: Folklore Stamps - Germany vs. Saarland
To start with B, the Scott catalogues list various categories of stamps with a letter prefix, e.g. B for Semi-postal stamps, C for Airmail stamps, etc. I expect they are all listed in any copy of Scotts, but you might find this old post from Linns of interest, especially the Table - Prefixes and suffixes used in Scott catalogs:
https://www.linns.com/insights/stamp-collecting-basics/2004/january/alphabet-soup--scott-catalog-prefixes-and-suffixes.html
Back to A. Both stamps were issued on April 1, 1958.
From November 1947 to July 1959 Saar used French currency. Issues from 1957 were authorised by the German Federal Republic pending the adoption of German currency on 6 July 1959, after which West German stamps were used. So separate issues showing the same stamps (with Saarland added) came out because of the different currency in use at that time.
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11:35:19am
re: Folklore Stamps - Germany vs. Saarland
Hello from Sunny Florida:
I am happy to read that some collectors are interested in Folk Art on postage stamps. The fox and goose featured on the West Germany stamps are very interesting.
Please, if you can, provide a few more examples of Folk Art on postage stamps: World Wide. I collect Fine Art on postage stamps: my only rule is that the art featured on the stamp be from the issuing nation. There are far too many CTOs and series from nations who feature fine art from other countries that have absolutely nothing to do with their own national art production. (Eg: those interminable series from African and Island nations that should feature their very own art and not that of nations that, in many instances, colonized and exploited them.) Just saying...
Thank you! And then, of course, what does "Fox and Goose" have to do with German culture? And then, of course, one can compare the sterile interminable series of stamps that were being issued by East Germany at the same time... Did the East Germans issue Folk Art on their postage stamps?
Again, I appreciated your post!
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re: Folklore Stamps - Germany vs. Saarland
THE FOX WHO STOLE THE GOOSE
A children's nursery rhyme
Germany
(Accessed on 15 July 2018 from
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/10/german-nursery-rhyme-fox-steals-goose-banned-town-complaint/ )
Fox, You've Stolen the Goose
Fox, you've stolen the goose Give it back! Give it back! Or the hunter will get you With his gun, Or the hunter will get you With his gun.
His big, long gun, Takes a little shot at you, Takes a little shot at you, So, you're tinged with red And then you're dead. So, you're tinged with red And then you're dead.
Dear little fox, let me advise you: Don't be a thief, Don't be a thief, Don't take the roast goose, Be content with the mouse. Don't take the roast goose, Be content with the mouse.
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re: Folklore Stamps - Germany vs. Saarland
Hi Both!
Thank you for your VERY helpful replies, I have recorded these facts for my research.
I will also try to share more "folklore on stamps" in the future and there are A LOT more of these kinds of stamps than I realized, "out there" for sale!
Thanks again!
JR
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