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Sales, Swaps, Auction & Approvals/Approvals Disc. : Country classification and sale items

 

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sheepshanks
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14 Apr 2018
12:06:02pm
Can sellers please try and get their sale items in the right place.
In the auctions UNITED KINGDOM (Great Britain) & ISLES does not include all the far flung outposts of a bygone era, it is the Islands that make up the UK. Other commonwealth stamps go in the appropriate slot.
In approvals whilst I appreciate that technically Great Britain is part of the Commonwealth, there is a more specific place for stamps of that nation.
Sellers you may be missing out on sales if buyers are only looking in the place they expect items to show.

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michael78651

16 Apr 2018
02:59:41pm
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While your comments are very valid points, we seem to have several sellers here who don't have a clue where the countries of the world are. It would take a couple of people working full time to keep that straight. (St. Pierre & Miquelon is NOT in Africa, for example.)

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16 Apr 2018
03:16:19pm

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and the amazing thing is that philatelists are, on the whole, far more geographically literate than the general American population, although that's a bar so low you'd never want to encounter it in a game limbo

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16 Apr 2018
05:51:06pm
re: Country classification and sale items

"It would take a couple of people working full time to keep that straight. (St. Pierre & Miquelon is NOT in Africa, for example.)"


Nor West Indies or France, and I was not suggesting anyone should correct listings other than the sellers themselves. They are the ones missing buyers.

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Brechinite

16 Apr 2018
07:39:02pm
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Jings! Crivvens! Help Ma Boab!

There was a young pilot going to Saint Pierre.
Who got lost when he was up in the air,
Its the Bermuda Triangle
That caused the wrong angle.
He ended up in Saint Nazaire!

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michael78651

17 Apr 2018
07:06:51pm
re: Country classification and sale items

LOL. Sometimes I like to give people a trivia quiz as to naming the countries that are in North America. They always leave out St. Pierre & Miquelon (a self-governing territorial oversees collectivity of France).

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17 Apr 2018
07:51:47pm

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i'd fail that, too, even though I know StP&M, and even know its location

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michael78651

18 Apr 2018
12:23:41am
re: Country classification and sale items

"I was not suggesting anyone should correct listings other than the sellers themselves."



I understand that. Unlike the auctions, approval moderators can not do that much with approval books. When problems are found, the seller is contacted and instructed to fix the problem. Sometimes (this is happening more frequently now as the contact-only advice seems to fall on blind eyes) the book is inactivated with the seller required to edit it to make it compliant with the rules before the seller can reactivate the book. Should a seller ignore that and simply reactivate the book, well, that won't bode well for the seller.

So, are you suggesting that the moderators take a closer look at the stamps in a book to more strictly ensure that the stamps comply with the chosen category? (Tonight I found stamps from Malawi in a book of Asia, for example.)

Books that are difficult for buyers to work through are overlooked with those books soon to be found in the "Closing Soon" status.
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Brechinite

18 Apr 2018
04:34:37am
re: Country classification and sale items

Not everybody has a superb geographical knowledge.

Each member has a different level of education.

We are all human so mistakes/errors are inevitable.

Nobody is going to be injured because someone thinks Malawi is in Asia.

Sellers do not do things deliberately to annoy buyers.

The moderators do a great job.

Respect and Tolerance is required.

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18 Apr 2018
09:20:20am
re: Country classification and sale items

"So, are you suggesting that the moderators take a closer look at the stamps in a book to more strictly ensure that the stamps comply with the chosen category?"



No definitely not, mods have enough to do already. I just find it irritating to have to scroll through items which are in the wrong place or find I have missed a book because it is in the wrong category. Such as GB books in the Commonwealth section.

It is not only here that it happens, Feebay is full of items where the countries are mis-spelled, as in Honk Kong or Britian. In fact I emailed the RBC bank as they also have Britain incorrectly spelled on there internet banking transfer page.

Just whinging again, think I am becoming a grumpy old man, and yes I have probably got a few words wrong here.

Edit; just checked and there are a couple of Tristan da Cunha and an Ascension item in the Great Britain and Isles auction and two books of GB in the Commonwealth approvals. Sellers are missing possible buyers, which was my original point for this discussion.
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michael78651

18 Apr 2018
10:27:50am
re: Country classification and sale items

OK, glad to hear that.

Building on what Ian said, I often move auction lots to the correct categories, if I find any that are in the wrong place, or someone notifies me of the problem. I then notify the seller of the move to let them know. I have even fixed typos for them so that the searches will have a better chance of finding the item. Unfortunately, the approvals were not set up to give the moderators the same editing ability.

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Brechinite

18 Apr 2018
11:40:12am
re: Country classification and sale items

Aye! There's nothing like a good whinge.

Don't get me started.

My wife has hidden my soap box!

Now to the most important thing in life...................FOOD.

Off to make the dinner.

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18 Apr 2018
11:51:33am
re: Country classification and sale items

"Off to make the dinner."


Not the Haggis and neeps again.
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18 Apr 2018
12:15:50pm
re: Country classification and sale items

No, the haggis are now out of season, so you're not allowed to shoot them.

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michael78651

18 Apr 2018
01:38:15pm
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"Off to make the dinner."



I just ate lunch, consisting of a headcheese sandwich and apple tort for dessert! YUM! Happy

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18 Apr 2018
02:33:05pm

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"apple tort"



we're you suing poor Steve Jobs again?

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Brechinite

18 Apr 2018
02:33:19pm
re: Country classification and sale items

Home made burgers, chips & beans with eggs sunny side up. With home made apple crumble and ice cream to follow. (I'm stuffed!)

It will be haggis, neeps and tatties tomorrow. (I've got a few in the freezer that I caught last year after chasing them anti clockwise round the hill and into a patch of lucky white heather which I had laced with a single malt exactly 2 hrs 22 minutes and 22 seconds before I lassooed them. Never an easy task!!)

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Brechinite

18 Apr 2018
02:37:23pm
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Micheal:- I take it your not a Packers fan seeing you have cheesehead sandwiches!!!





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18 Apr 2018
03:10:19pm
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I had a headcheese sandwich. And, you're right, I'm not a Packers fan.

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14 Apr 2018
12:06:02pm

Can sellers please try and get their sale items in the right place.
In the auctions UNITED KINGDOM (Great Britain) & ISLES does not include all the far flung outposts of a bygone era, it is the Islands that make up the UK. Other commonwealth stamps go in the appropriate slot.
In approvals whilst I appreciate that technically Great Britain is part of the Commonwealth, there is a more specific place for stamps of that nation.
Sellers you may be missing out on sales if buyers are only looking in the place they expect items to show.

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michael78651

16 Apr 2018
02:59:41pm

re: Country classification and sale items

While your comments are very valid points, we seem to have several sellers here who don't have a clue where the countries of the world are. It would take a couple of people working full time to keep that straight. (St. Pierre & Miquelon is NOT in Africa, for example.)

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16 Apr 2018
03:16:19pm

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re: Country classification and sale items

and the amazing thing is that philatelists are, on the whole, far more geographically literate than the general American population, although that's a bar so low you'd never want to encounter it in a game limbo

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sheepshanks

16 Apr 2018
05:51:06pm

re: Country classification and sale items

"It would take a couple of people working full time to keep that straight. (St. Pierre & Miquelon is NOT in Africa, for example.)"


Nor West Indies or France, and I was not suggesting anyone should correct listings other than the sellers themselves. They are the ones missing buyers.

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Brechinite

16 Apr 2018
07:39:02pm

re: Country classification and sale items

Jings! Crivvens! Help Ma Boab!

There was a young pilot going to Saint Pierre.
Who got lost when he was up in the air,
Its the Bermuda Triangle
That caused the wrong angle.
He ended up in Saint Nazaire!

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michael78651

17 Apr 2018
07:06:51pm

re: Country classification and sale items

LOL. Sometimes I like to give people a trivia quiz as to naming the countries that are in North America. They always leave out St. Pierre & Miquelon (a self-governing territorial oversees collectivity of France).

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17 Apr 2018
07:51:47pm

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i'd fail that, too, even though I know StP&M, and even know its location

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michael78651

18 Apr 2018
12:23:41am

re: Country classification and sale items

"I was not suggesting anyone should correct listings other than the sellers themselves."



I understand that. Unlike the auctions, approval moderators can not do that much with approval books. When problems are found, the seller is contacted and instructed to fix the problem. Sometimes (this is happening more frequently now as the contact-only advice seems to fall on blind eyes) the book is inactivated with the seller required to edit it to make it compliant with the rules before the seller can reactivate the book. Should a seller ignore that and simply reactivate the book, well, that won't bode well for the seller.

So, are you suggesting that the moderators take a closer look at the stamps in a book to more strictly ensure that the stamps comply with the chosen category? (Tonight I found stamps from Malawi in a book of Asia, for example.)

Books that are difficult for buyers to work through are overlooked with those books soon to be found in the "Closing Soon" status.
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Brechinite

18 Apr 2018
04:34:37am

re: Country classification and sale items

Not everybody has a superb geographical knowledge.

Each member has a different level of education.

We are all human so mistakes/errors are inevitable.

Nobody is going to be injured because someone thinks Malawi is in Asia.

Sellers do not do things deliberately to annoy buyers.

The moderators do a great job.

Respect and Tolerance is required.

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18 Apr 2018
09:20:20am

re: Country classification and sale items

"So, are you suggesting that the moderators take a closer look at the stamps in a book to more strictly ensure that the stamps comply with the chosen category?"



No definitely not, mods have enough to do already. I just find it irritating to have to scroll through items which are in the wrong place or find I have missed a book because it is in the wrong category. Such as GB books in the Commonwealth section.

It is not only here that it happens, Feebay is full of items where the countries are mis-spelled, as in Honk Kong or Britian. In fact I emailed the RBC bank as they also have Britain incorrectly spelled on there internet banking transfer page.

Just whinging again, think I am becoming a grumpy old man, and yes I have probably got a few words wrong here.

Edit; just checked and there are a couple of Tristan da Cunha and an Ascension item in the Great Britain and Isles auction and two books of GB in the Commonwealth approvals. Sellers are missing possible buyers, which was my original point for this discussion.
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michael78651

18 Apr 2018
10:27:50am

re: Country classification and sale items

OK, glad to hear that.

Building on what Ian said, I often move auction lots to the correct categories, if I find any that are in the wrong place, or someone notifies me of the problem. I then notify the seller of the move to let them know. I have even fixed typos for them so that the searches will have a better chance of finding the item. Unfortunately, the approvals were not set up to give the moderators the same editing ability.

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Brechinite

18 Apr 2018
11:40:12am

re: Country classification and sale items

Aye! There's nothing like a good whinge.

Don't get me started.

My wife has hidden my soap box!

Now to the most important thing in life...................FOOD.

Off to make the dinner.

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18 Apr 2018
11:51:33am

re: Country classification and sale items

"Off to make the dinner."


Not the Haggis and neeps again.
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18 Apr 2018
12:15:50pm

re: Country classification and sale items

No, the haggis are now out of season, so you're not allowed to shoot them.

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michael78651

18 Apr 2018
01:38:15pm

re: Country classification and sale items

"Off to make the dinner."



I just ate lunch, consisting of a headcheese sandwich and apple tort for dessert! YUM! Happy

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18 Apr 2018
02:33:05pm

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"apple tort"



we're you suing poor Steve Jobs again?

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Brechinite

18 Apr 2018
02:33:19pm

re: Country classification and sale items

Home made burgers, chips & beans with eggs sunny side up. With home made apple crumble and ice cream to follow. (I'm stuffed!)

It will be haggis, neeps and tatties tomorrow. (I've got a few in the freezer that I caught last year after chasing them anti clockwise round the hill and into a patch of lucky white heather which I had laced with a single malt exactly 2 hrs 22 minutes and 22 seconds before I lassooed them. Never an easy task!!)

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18 Apr 2018
02:37:23pm

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Micheal:- I take it your not a Packers fan seeing you have cheesehead sandwiches!!!





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18 Apr 2018
03:10:19pm

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I had a headcheese sandwich. And, you're right, I'm not a Packers fan.

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