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Europe/Other : Gibraltar Scott 10 Rose or Scott 11 Carmine Rose

 

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angore
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03 Apr 2018
11:25:21am
I have two 1 penny Queen Victoria. They have two different shades but one is in better condition than the other so not sure if one has faded.

Scott lists two colors, rose and carmine rose, and having a hard time identifying which colors these are. My gut feel is they are the same color (rose) but not sure.

The scan color looks pretty accurate to me.

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03 Apr 2018
03:30:21pm
re: Gibraltar Scott 10 Rose or Scott 11 Carmine Rose

Gibraltar Scott #23 and #30 were only printed in rose. If you have either of those, compare them with what you have.

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03 Apr 2018
03:33:43pm
re: Gibraltar Scott 10 Rose or Scott 11 Carmine Rose

The right hand stamp is yellowed, this makes me dubious. When it comes to colors, I struggle with used stamps since we have no idea what kind of life a stamp has seen.
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malcolm197

09 May 2018
05:49:59am
re: Gibraltar Scott 10 Rose or Scott 11 Carmine Rose

I agree with Don about the life, and the further one gets from it's original acquisition date the worse it gets.

Best case scenario is the stamp you remove from its original envelope yourself the day it arrives through your letter box. Worst case scenario is where a stamp was issued 100+ years ago and has been through 50 collections since.

Fortunately after handling 1000 s of stamps you can actually make an educated guess by it's appearence where on the best/worst spectrum it is likely to be. The one on the left leans quite hard to the best whereas the one in the right is slightly towards the worst from centre, but still not a "dog". It follows that the one on the left is likely near to it's original shade whereas the one to the right I think falls into the "is it/isn't it" department. All is not lost however, you need to have sight of as many copies as you can find to compare it with.

There are many scientific tests and methods available to assist in identifying stamps, but sometimes in the end it often comes down to a combination of experience and "gut-feeling".The one thing I do know is that trying to id shades on a computer monitor is a hiding to nothing - it never looks like the original.

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09 May 2018
07:09:50am
re: Gibraltar Scott 10 Rose or Scott 11 Carmine Rose

My gut feel was it was whatever the least expensive color was. I agree right stamp is not in very good shape. You seem the same with colors like ultramarine which varies a lot too.

This is one of many stamps that I get to a point where I do not not really know and set it aside and forget to go back and review it later. I need to do a better job. In usually put them on a vario sheet with a tag and stick in the album.

The comment was to check with another issue with same color but I do not have as much confidence that another issue color will match this but I do plan to check.

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angore

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03 Apr 2018
11:25:21am

I have two 1 penny Queen Victoria. They have two different shades but one is in better condition than the other so not sure if one has faded.

Scott lists two colors, rose and carmine rose, and having a hard time identifying which colors these are. My gut feel is they are the same color (rose) but not sure.

The scan color looks pretty accurate to me.

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03 Apr 2018
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re: Gibraltar Scott 10 Rose or Scott 11 Carmine Rose

Gibraltar Scott #23 and #30 were only printed in rose. If you have either of those, compare them with what you have.

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03 Apr 2018
03:33:43pm

re: Gibraltar Scott 10 Rose or Scott 11 Carmine Rose

The right hand stamp is yellowed, this makes me dubious. When it comes to colors, I struggle with used stamps since we have no idea what kind of life a stamp has seen.
Don

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malcolm197

09 May 2018
05:49:59am

re: Gibraltar Scott 10 Rose or Scott 11 Carmine Rose

I agree with Don about the life, and the further one gets from it's original acquisition date the worse it gets.

Best case scenario is the stamp you remove from its original envelope yourself the day it arrives through your letter box. Worst case scenario is where a stamp was issued 100+ years ago and has been through 50 collections since.

Fortunately after handling 1000 s of stamps you can actually make an educated guess by it's appearence where on the best/worst spectrum it is likely to be. The one on the left leans quite hard to the best whereas the one in the right is slightly towards the worst from centre, but still not a "dog". It follows that the one on the left is likely near to it's original shade whereas the one to the right I think falls into the "is it/isn't it" department. All is not lost however, you need to have sight of as many copies as you can find to compare it with.

There are many scientific tests and methods available to assist in identifying stamps, but sometimes in the end it often comes down to a combination of experience and "gut-feeling".The one thing I do know is that trying to id shades on a computer monitor is a hiding to nothing - it never looks like the original.

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09 May 2018
07:09:50am

re: Gibraltar Scott 10 Rose or Scott 11 Carmine Rose

My gut feel was it was whatever the least expensive color was. I agree right stamp is not in very good shape. You seem the same with colors like ultramarine which varies a lot too.

This is one of many stamps that I get to a point where I do not not really know and set it aside and forget to go back and review it later. I need to do a better job. In usually put them on a vario sheet with a tag and stick in the album.

The comment was to check with another issue with same color but I do not have as much confidence that another issue color will match this but I do plan to check.

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