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25 Mar 2018
06:33:42pm
I need help identifying some items that I have come across. Any help would be appreciated.

Item# 1 - I know it is from Iran. Is it a revenue?

Item# 2 - I know it is from Finland. Is it a revenue, Seal or etc.

Item# 3 - I know it is from Jamaica. Is it a cut square or Frama?

Item# 4 - It looks like a censor marking but from where?Image Not Found

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25 Mar 2018
08:32:45pm
re: Help with identification

Hi,

The first one is a bit of a mystery. But I MAY have found an answer.

This is a quote from David Saks' website:

RELAIS: Iran, stickers for railway tickets allowing users to ride postal wagons on non-railway routes.

As far as I can make out there are four stamps in this issue. You can see them on SOTW following the link: http://www.stampsoftheworld.co.uk/wiki/Iran_1911_Relais

They are Scotts #516-9.

Hope this helps

Kim


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25 Mar 2018
08:45:47pm
re: Help with identification

Re number 4,

The stamp appears to read 'Passed by No 2792 Censor'.

I have seen a number of these and I would hazard a guess that the cancellation is 'Field Post Office Y' and the date is 25th July 1915.

There will be a reference source somewhere giving better information on the Field Post Offices in WW1 but I can't find it.

Cheers

Kim

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25 Mar 2018
09:08:49pm
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Thanks Kim

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26 Mar 2018
12:00:16am
re: Help with identification

Q/ Might #3 be a meter imprint?

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26 Mar 2018
02:04:28am
re: Help with identification

#2 is a letter seal by Finnish stamp company O.Y Fennia Post A.B (O.Y being Finnish and A.B Swedish, both meaning Ltd company). They operated from 1920 to 1922 if I recall properly. The company went bust, but the operations were taken over by one of the owners, and rebranded as "Postimerkkiliike Fennia-Post", which eventually became somewhat iconic.... But that was almost century ago, currently the name Fennia is used by general insurance company, LOL.

-k-

PS. Thanks to ikey for tipping me on this topic...

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26 Mar 2018
11:00:47am
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Just confirming that #3 is indeed a partial meter imprint catalog# A7 first issued in 1957.

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https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/International_Postage_Meter_Stamp_Catalog/Jamaica

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26 Mar 2018
12:49:16pm
re: Help with identification

Thank you everyone.

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malcolm197

08 May 2018
10:06:55am
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Your Army censor marking probably does not refer to a Field Post Office, as all the ones I have seen,either in the flesh or in literature have been numbers.

It is almost certainly "Army Post Office". Unlike FPOs which moved around with units "in the field" (- it does exactly what it says on the tin !), these were Post Offices set up at permanent "Bases" some distance behind the front, and were mainly concerned with Lines of Communications troops, Hospitals, Stores,repair shops, Rest areas for units outside the front line, and all the other back room requirements of a modern army in a static warfare situation.Some Army Post Offices did have letter identification.

The dates mean that it cannot be from "British Army Post Office Y" which was at Mudros, Lemos,Greece in connection with the Gallipoli campaign ( April 1915 - Sep 1916) or the British Occupation of the Ottoman Empire ( Istanbul ) from November 1918 to September 1920.

This detail is very basic information taken from Wikipedia. The actuality is almost certainly far more complex and convoluted than this.

Malcolm

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Dakota

25 Mar 2018
06:33:42pm

I need help identifying some items that I have come across. Any help would be appreciated.

Item# 1 - I know it is from Iran. Is it a revenue?

Item# 2 - I know it is from Finland. Is it a revenue, Seal or etc.

Item# 3 - I know it is from Jamaica. Is it a cut square or Frama?

Item# 4 - It looks like a censor marking but from where?Image Not Found

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25 Mar 2018
08:32:45pm

re: Help with identification

Hi,

The first one is a bit of a mystery. But I MAY have found an answer.

This is a quote from David Saks' website:

RELAIS: Iran, stickers for railway tickets allowing users to ride postal wagons on non-railway routes.

As far as I can make out there are four stamps in this issue. You can see them on SOTW following the link: http://www.stampsoftheworld.co.uk/wiki/Iran_1911_Relais

They are Scotts #516-9.

Hope this helps

Kim


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25 Mar 2018
08:45:47pm

re: Help with identification

Re number 4,

The stamp appears to read 'Passed by No 2792 Censor'.

I have seen a number of these and I would hazard a guess that the cancellation is 'Field Post Office Y' and the date is 25th July 1915.

There will be a reference source somewhere giving better information on the Field Post Offices in WW1 but I can't find it.

Cheers

Kim

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25 Mar 2018
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26 Mar 2018
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re: Help with identification

Q/ Might #3 be a meter imprint?

Cheers,

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26 Mar 2018
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re: Help with identification

#2 is a letter seal by Finnish stamp company O.Y Fennia Post A.B (O.Y being Finnish and A.B Swedish, both meaning Ltd company). They operated from 1920 to 1922 if I recall properly. The company went bust, but the operations were taken over by one of the owners, and rebranded as "Postimerkkiliike Fennia-Post", which eventually became somewhat iconic.... But that was almost century ago, currently the name Fennia is used by general insurance company, LOL.

-k-

PS. Thanks to ikey for tipping me on this topic...

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26 Mar 2018
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re: Help with identification

Just confirming that #3 is indeed a partial meter imprint catalog# A7 first issued in 1957.

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https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/International_Postage_Meter_Stamp_Catalog/Jamaica

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26 Mar 2018
12:49:16pm

re: Help with identification

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malcolm197

08 May 2018
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re: Help with identification

Your Army censor marking probably does not refer to a Field Post Office, as all the ones I have seen,either in the flesh or in literature have been numbers.

It is almost certainly "Army Post Office". Unlike FPOs which moved around with units "in the field" (- it does exactly what it says on the tin !), these were Post Offices set up at permanent "Bases" some distance behind the front, and were mainly concerned with Lines of Communications troops, Hospitals, Stores,repair shops, Rest areas for units outside the front line, and all the other back room requirements of a modern army in a static warfare situation.Some Army Post Offices did have letter identification.

The dates mean that it cannot be from "British Army Post Office Y" which was at Mudros, Lemos,Greece in connection with the Gallipoli campaign ( April 1915 - Sep 1916) or the British Occupation of the Ottoman Empire ( Istanbul ) from November 1918 to September 1920.

This detail is very basic information taken from Wikipedia. The actuality is almost certainly far more complex and convoluted than this.

Malcolm

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