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General Philatelic/Identify This? : Japanese revenue stamp?

 

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Spark

23 Mar 2018
06:18:38pm
I originally thought this was Chinese, but learned later it was Japanese. I have been trying to identify this for several years, have tried Scott catalogs, internet, collectible clubs etc. to no avail. Can anyone help me? I think it is from the '50s, the value font is close to that period with the underlined zeros. Thank you in advance, Spark

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23 Mar 2018
06:33:10pm
re: Japanese revenue stamp?

Hi Spark,

It's a Chinese postal savings stamp.

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23 Mar 2018
09:11:13pm
re: Japanese revenue stamp?

Look at the chinese characters on the bottom of the stamp;

referring to the one character all the way to the right - if this character is found on a stamp, it is almost guaranteed to be from China.

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Spark

24 Mar 2018
08:27:36pm
re: Japanese revenue stamp?

Any year known or catalog number? If I get a copy of Scott for China, I would go to the Postal Savings section, usually in the latter part of the section. Like, Semi-postals usually start with a "B", reg. issues with an "A" and airmail with a "C". What do you think this would start with, "PS"?

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24 Mar 2018
08:50:33pm
re: Japanese revenue stamp?

Uh-oh...found a thread from 2012 indicating others have found that these are not listed in Scott.

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24 Mar 2018
08:51:48pm
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Hi Spark,

I don't know any catalogues that list postal savings stamps other than Scott's listings in the Specialized US catalogue with the PS- and S-prefix stamps.

I'd be very interested to learn of any others.

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24 Mar 2018
09:30:08pm
re: Japanese revenue stamp?

Randys' tip about the square character with vertical line running through it is a very good one. Japan also has a symbol that is on most all of its stamps, it is the Chrysanthemum.
It is usually top center on it's stamps. So the first thing you should always do when trying to figure out these similar looking stamps is to look for either of these. As noted
revenue stamps are not listed for either country in most catalogs. Revenues will have the
same characters on them. They are usually bi-colored for Japan and are usually a bit bigger and more square than regular issues. They are also commonly printed on colored paper.

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24 Mar 2018
09:44:48pm
re: Japanese revenue stamp?

The challenge with postal savings stamps is that they are not usually included in revenue stamp catalogues either.

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Spark

25 Mar 2018
04:41:28am
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All you guys are gentlemen and scholars, my deepest thanks for your help. I will let you know if I make further headway on this. Spark

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25 Mar 2018
12:08:56pm
re: Japanese revenue stamp?

Chan has a specialized China Catalog that probably lists those.
I sold my China collection about 8 years ago & the Yang went with it so I can't be sure
I purchased my catalog from Michael Rogers

http://www.michaelrogersinc.com/books.html

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29 Mar 2018
07:32:07am
re: Japanese revenue stamp?

"...referring to the one character all the way to the right -
if this character is found on a stamp, it is almost guaranteed
to be from China.v... "


A very good tell for Chinese issues.
The rectangular character on Japanese issues is more vertical
with a similar horizontal line through it's center so that
it looks like a window consisting of an upper and lower pane.

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Spark

23 Mar 2018
06:18:38pm

I originally thought this was Chinese, but learned later it was Japanese. I have been trying to identify this for several years, have tried Scott catalogs, internet, collectible clubs etc. to no avail. Can anyone help me? I think it is from the '50s, the value font is close to that period with the underlined zeros. Thank you in advance, Spark

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23 Mar 2018
06:33:10pm

re: Japanese revenue stamp?

Hi Spark,

It's a Chinese postal savings stamp.

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23 Mar 2018
09:11:13pm

re: Japanese revenue stamp?

Look at the chinese characters on the bottom of the stamp;

referring to the one character all the way to the right - if this character is found on a stamp, it is almost guaranteed to be from China.

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Spark

24 Mar 2018
08:27:36pm

re: Japanese revenue stamp?

Any year known or catalog number? If I get a copy of Scott for China, I would go to the Postal Savings section, usually in the latter part of the section. Like, Semi-postals usually start with a "B", reg. issues with an "A" and airmail with a "C". What do you think this would start with, "PS"?

Spark

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24 Mar 2018
08:50:33pm

re: Japanese revenue stamp?

Uh-oh...found a thread from 2012 indicating others have found that these are not listed in Scott.

Spark.

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24 Mar 2018
08:51:48pm

re: Japanese revenue stamp?

Hi Spark,

I don't know any catalogues that list postal savings stamps other than Scott's listings in the Specialized US catalogue with the PS- and S-prefix stamps.

I'd be very interested to learn of any others.

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24 Mar 2018
09:30:08pm

re: Japanese revenue stamp?

Randys' tip about the square character with vertical line running through it is a very good one. Japan also has a symbol that is on most all of its stamps, it is the Chrysanthemum.
It is usually top center on it's stamps. So the first thing you should always do when trying to figure out these similar looking stamps is to look for either of these. As noted
revenue stamps are not listed for either country in most catalogs. Revenues will have the
same characters on them. They are usually bi-colored for Japan and are usually a bit bigger and more square than regular issues. They are also commonly printed on colored paper.

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24 Mar 2018
09:44:48pm

re: Japanese revenue stamp?

The challenge with postal savings stamps is that they are not usually included in revenue stamp catalogues either.

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Spark

25 Mar 2018
04:41:28am

re: Japanese revenue stamp?

All you guys are gentlemen and scholars, my deepest thanks for your help. I will let you know if I make further headway on this. Spark

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25 Mar 2018
12:08:56pm

re: Japanese revenue stamp?

Chan has a specialized China Catalog that probably lists those.
I sold my China collection about 8 years ago & the Yang went with it so I can't be sure
I purchased my catalog from Michael Rogers

http://www.michaelrogersinc.com/books.html

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"Stamp Collecting Software - https://ezstamp.com"

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29 Mar 2018
07:32:07am

re: Japanese revenue stamp?

"...referring to the one character all the way to the right -
if this character is found on a stamp, it is almost guaranteed
to be from China.v... "


A very good tell for Chinese issues.
The rectangular character on Japanese issues is more vertical
with a similar horizontal line through it's center so that
it looks like a window consisting of an upper and lower pane.

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".... You may think you understood what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you think you heard is not what I thought I meant. .... "
        

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