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General Philatelic/Identify This? : Help needed to identify this Great Britain ? Stamp

 

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oldtriguy1960
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22 Mar 2018
05:58:35pm

Hi All,

I dont even know if this is British or even a stamp. The early GB stamps I see in catalogs have "Postage" somewhere on them and this one obviously does not.
Any help on what this is and from where is appreciated.....

Dave N.



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22 Mar 2018
08:26:51pm
re: Help needed to identify this Great Britain ? Stamp

It is a cutout from postal stationery, likely a wrapper, given the denomination.

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22 Mar 2018
09:41:58pm
re: Help needed to identify this Great Britain ? Stamp

What is a Wrapper? Anybody got a picture of one?

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nigelc
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22 Mar 2018
09:45:30pm
re: Help needed to identify this Great Britain ? Stamp

It doesn't look like a GB cut-out to me.

The design is a similar to the stamp on the first GB postcard except that that had "HALF PENNY" printed in two words in colour on a white background rather than reversed out like this one.

The corner ornaments as different as well.

Maybe it's a colonial cut-out or from a non-postal item?

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nigelc
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22 Mar 2018
10:02:14pm
re: Help needed to identify this Great Britain ? Stamp

Hi Dave,

Here's a Cape of Good Hope wrapper:

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It's just a stamped single piece of paper that would be wrapped around a folded newspaper or magazine.

This one has the top edge gummed.

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22 Mar 2018
10:58:05pm
re: Help needed to identify this Great Britain ? Stamp

"It doesn't look like a GB cut-out to me."



Nigel, you are quite correct.

Normally, on the colonial issues the colony name is included in the indicia (the "stamp" part), like your CGH example.

However, here is an example of a complete wrapper this came from (from my "sold" database)

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23 Mar 2018
05:49:51am
re: Help needed to identify this Great Britain ? Stamp

Bingo!

Just a little while ago I was wondering to myself it maube I should check Australia.

South Australia Newspaper wrapper.

Thanks Roy and Nigelc!

Now, does anybody have an idea of a date of issue?

Dave N.

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jillcrow

24 Mar 2018
06:43:49am
re: Help needed to identify this Great Britain ? Stamp

Could be 1882 or 1884. Check below under Panel B: Indicium differences

http://www.philatelicdatabase.com/australia-and-dependencies/printing-differences-on-selected-south-australia-newspaper-wrappers/

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oldtriguy1960

22 Mar 2018
05:58:35pm


Hi All,

I dont even know if this is British or even a stamp. The early GB stamps I see in catalogs have "Postage" somewhere on them and this one obviously does not.
Any help on what this is and from where is appreciated.....

Dave N.



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22 Mar 2018
08:26:51pm

re: Help needed to identify this Great Britain ? Stamp

It is a cutout from postal stationery, likely a wrapper, given the denomination.

Roy


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22 Mar 2018
09:41:58pm

re: Help needed to identify this Great Britain ? Stamp

What is a Wrapper? Anybody got a picture of one?

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nigelc

22 Mar 2018
09:45:30pm

re: Help needed to identify this Great Britain ? Stamp

It doesn't look like a GB cut-out to me.

The design is a similar to the stamp on the first GB postcard except that that had "HALF PENNY" printed in two words in colour on a white background rather than reversed out like this one.

The corner ornaments as different as well.

Maybe it's a colonial cut-out or from a non-postal item?

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nigelc

22 Mar 2018
10:02:14pm

re: Help needed to identify this Great Britain ? Stamp

Hi Dave,

Here's a Cape of Good Hope wrapper:

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It's just a stamped single piece of paper that would be wrapped around a folded newspaper or magazine.

This one has the top edge gummed.

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22 Mar 2018
10:58:05pm

re: Help needed to identify this Great Britain ? Stamp

"It doesn't look like a GB cut-out to me."



Nigel, you are quite correct.

Normally, on the colonial issues the colony name is included in the indicia (the "stamp" part), like your CGH example.

However, here is an example of a complete wrapper this came from (from my "sold" database)

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Roy
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23 Mar 2018
05:49:51am

re: Help needed to identify this Great Britain ? Stamp

Bingo!

Just a little while ago I was wondering to myself it maube I should check Australia.

South Australia Newspaper wrapper.

Thanks Roy and Nigelc!

Now, does anybody have an idea of a date of issue?

Dave N.

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jillcrow

24 Mar 2018
06:43:49am

re: Help needed to identify this Great Britain ? Stamp

Could be 1882 or 1884. Check below under Panel B: Indicium differences

http://www.philatelicdatabase.com/australia-and-dependencies/printing-differences-on-selected-south-australia-newspaper-wrappers/

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