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thaisballtrap
18 Mar 2018
02:05:14pm

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CZECHOSLOVAKIA ?

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ECUADOR ?


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18 Mar 2018
02:18:54pm
re: Could you help me please ?

The top stamp looks like Czech air post Scott C1.

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18 Mar 2018
02:34:44pm

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The top one is Czechslovakia 1939 Airmail Scott C18 - SG 394.

The bottom one is Ecuador 1941 Postal Tax Stamp Scott RA50 - SG 637. It is for the national Defense Fund.

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thaisballtrap
18 Mar 2018
03:31:08pm

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I don't find C18 in my 2013 Scott ... Could you please give me the value of the stamps MNH and Used ? See you soon - Bénédicte

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stampmankeith
18 Mar 2018
05:48:43pm
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C18 Scott's 2017 cat. mint $50, MNH $85, used $47.50

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stampmankeith
18 Mar 2018
05:50:18pm
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Sorry - only saw the question. Price is for the US C18

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thaisballtrap
19 Mar 2018
04:14:23am

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Thank you very much for your help ! Bénédicte

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20 Mar 2018
02:19:07pm

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My SG Czechoslovakia Catalogue 2012 gives the mint value for the 394/C18 as 25p which is about 30/35c US.
My Scot Digital Standard Postage Stamp Catalogue 2008 gives the value as 20c US.

Why the sudden jump in value. Am I missing something? I notice that some listings have a high catalogue value but having dozens of the particular issue lying around I tend to take it with a pinch of salt. Besides, it's the old adage, something is only worth what someone else is willing to pay for it.

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21 Mar 2018
09:13:43pm
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Despite Scott's claim to be constanty consulting actual sales results
to calculate the numbers listed as "values" in their catalogs,
I have often wondered if there are markets on other planets
that they blend into the Earth values they meticulously list.
But we have discued this issue before.
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22 Mar 2018
07:36:26am
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I have a hard time believing Scott uses anything more than windage for determining Scott values for more the common stamps. There is no accurate way to track most stamp sales other than looking at some dealer sheets (often based upon Scott values!) so likely circular analysis. There are fewer published price lists than ever before and what there is if on the web. They clearly do not use ebay data since prices would be a LOT lower for many items.

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22 Mar 2018
11:45:40am
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"My SG Czechoslovakia Catalogue 2012 gives the mint value for the 394/C18 as 25p which is about 30/35c US.
My Scot Digital Standard Postage Stamp Catalogue 2008 gives the value as 20c US.
Why the sudden jump in value. Am I missing something? "


stampmankeith:
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"C18 Scott's 2017 cat. mint $50, MNH $85, used $47.50"

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"Sorry - only saw the question. Price is for the US C18"



There was no sudden jump in value, stampmankeith accidentally gave the value of a US Airmail stamp with Scott number C18 instead of the Czechoslovakian one.

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22 Mar 2018
03:44:13pm

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Ahh....

Thus endeth the confusion.

Being in the UK I am not up on Scott's business. Do they sell stamps as well as publishing catalogues?

Stanley Gibbons sell stamps and coins. I've always thought that the prices in the catalogues are based more on what SG thinks it will get for selling stamps than their actual value. They are in a bit of a financial meltdown at the moment and are looking for refinancing to keep the business going.

At my philatelic society we think that 25-35% of the catalogue value is a fair price to pay, depending on the condition. To pay more than that the stamps must be exceptional.

I have seen silly prices on eBay. Stamps for sale at 4 or 5 times their catalogue value are not unknown.

Buying stamps is a hobby for the financially aware.

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22 Mar 2018
05:30:56pm
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As a colonial transplant to North America I am far more comfortable with the SG catalogues I started out with than Scott for two main reasons.
Firstly Scott's coverage of the Commonwealth countries I collect is rather cursory with many major varieties omitted.
Secondly, Rather than ordering postage stamps sequentially by date as SG does, Scott instead splits them up into three categories - postage stamps, airmails, and semi-postals. Hence SG 394 being listed by Scott as C18.
Personally I fail to see the logic of this when the primary purpose of these stamps is to convey mail through the post.

As far as I am aware, the SG catalogue is or was intended as a retail price list of the items sold by SG. They are ridiculously high but are a useful indication of relative value. I am not too sure about Scott, but they are a division of Amos Advantage which does sell other philatelic supplies.
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22 Mar 2018
07:47:36pm
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" ... Buying stamps is a hobby
for the financially aware. ..."


You can put that on a plank
and nail it to the wall.

AND

" ... Personally I fail to see the logic
of this when the primary purpose
of these stamps is to convey mail
through the post....."


Traditon, TRADITION !!!

And why is that a tradition ?
As Tevye, said;
"... I don't know.
But it's a tradition. ..."

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