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bobgggg
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16 Feb 2018
03:32:36pm
Image Not FoundQuestion to the Japan experts...

I see many stamps with this type of cancel...


is this a pen cancel ????


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16 Feb 2018
04:51:44pm
re: Japan cancels

This is a roller cancel.

As far as I know, a roller cancel represents legitimate postal use, as opposed to those wavy-line cancels, which, as I understand it, indicates a remainder cancel.

That said, I'm not as current on these things as I used to be. I can ask someone who would know better than I whether or not these more recent roller cancels are actually a type of remainder cancel.

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bobgggg
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16 Feb 2018
07:46:07pm
re: Japan cancels

Thank you Dave

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16 Feb 2018
08:14:30pm
re: Japan cancels

Bob, I've gone on and asked in a specialty group I belong to. I'll post here if I learn any additional information about them.

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APS #187980
16 Feb 2018
08:47:11pm
re: Japan cancels

I got a reply back quickly.

Stamps with these roller cancels saw legitimate postal use.

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bobgggg
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17 Feb 2018
06:53:35am
re: Japan cancels

Thanks again...

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APS #187980
17 Feb 2018
09:52:05am
re: Japan cancels

You bet!

I was glad to get that detail confirmed for myself as well.

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APS #187980
17 Feb 2018
12:24:27pm
re: Japan cancels

From a colleague of mine in the study group I mentioned, here's an example of that roller cancel applied to a group of stamps. It helps give an idea of what the cancel actually looks like.

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(Sorry about flogging this topic to death.)

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APS #213005
17 Feb 2018
12:30:35pm
re: Japan cancels

Dave,

Thank you for that last post - I was trying to figure out what an entire cancel would look like!

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bobgggg
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17 Feb 2018
04:42:35pm
re: Japan cancels

Please feel free to flog all you want... Learned a good lesson..

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malcolm197
16 Mar 2018
08:55:46am
re: Japan cancels

This is my type of thread.

It is great to learn "stuff" that is not about rare, high value stamps you can never own, but about everyday matters which intrigue and stimulate.

I am a bit of a magpie and am interested it almost everything which can exercise my mind.My wife despairs at the apparently useless( to her !) information I accumulate.

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16 Mar 2018
02:33:58pm
re: Japan cancels

just confirming what's already been reported: roller cancel, common on most Japanese large packages. I don't recall seeing these roller cancels on covers from any other country

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bobgggg
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16 Mar 2018
11:44:30pm
re: Japan cancels

David... I have seen some roller cancels on some Canadian covers..

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17 Mar 2018
02:25:00am
re: Japan cancels

http://www.isjp.org/sg-fm-postmarks

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14 Sep 2020
10:19:15pm
re: Japan cancels

OK... how would you classify this one?! Does this suggest rollers also used as remainders?

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clif
21 Sep 2020
09:10:16am
re: Japan cancels

are the 'remainder' wavy cancels the Japanese equivalent to CTO cancels so far as collectability?

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21 Sep 2020
11:18:44am
re: Japan cancels

They are valued lower than "normal" postal cancels, but have also served a postal purpose. The stamps were used to pay the postal fees, but weren't stuck to the pieces of mail (the just got a "postage paid" mark), but for accounting purposes to separate sheets of paper, and were cancelled with these rollers. Often whole sheets of stamps were cancelled in this way. Not very useful if you just send a single letter, but convenient for mass mailings and the like.

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21 Sep 2020
02:50:06pm
re: Japan cancels

they may also be cancelled as sheets independent of a cover, but they are often found on large manila envelopes

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21 Sep 2020
05:55:53pm
re: Japan cancels

I received these stamps as franking on a package from Japan.Image Not Found

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bobgggg
President Cortlandt Stamp Club
22 Sep 2020
09:21:55am
re: Japan cancels

Tony..I guess you will be listing some new stamps from Japan ?

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22 Sep 2020
01:50:21pm
re: Japan cancels

Bob, I mostly trade so I'm switching to colnect.
Much easier to list and not so time consuming.

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