This is a roller cancel.
As far as I know, a roller cancel represents legitimate postal use, as opposed to those wavy-line cancels, which, as I understand it, indicates a remainder cancel.
That said, I'm not as current on these things as I used to be. I can ask someone who would know better than I whether or not these more recent roller cancels are actually a type of remainder cancel.
Thank you Dave
Bob, I've gone on and asked in a specialty group I belong to. I'll post here if I learn any additional information about them.
I got a reply back quickly.
Stamps with these roller cancels saw legitimate postal use.
Thanks again...
You bet!
I was glad to get that detail confirmed for myself as well.
From a colleague of mine in the study group I mentioned, here's an example of that roller cancel applied to a group of stamps. It helps give an idea of what the cancel actually looks like.
(Sorry about flogging this topic to death.)
Dave,
Thank you for that last post - I was trying to figure out what an entire cancel would look like!
Please feel free to flog all you want... Learned a good lesson..
This is my type of thread.
It is great to learn "stuff" that is not about rare, high value stamps you can never own, but about everyday matters which intrigue and stimulate.
I am a bit of a magpie and am interested it almost everything which can exercise my mind.My wife despairs at the apparently useless( to her !) information I accumulate.
Malcolm
just confirming what's already been reported: roller cancel, common on most Japanese large packages. I don't recall seeing these roller cancels on covers from any other country
David... I have seen some roller cancels on some Canadian covers..
http://www.isjp.org/sg-fm-postmarks
OK... how would you classify this one?! Does this suggest rollers also used as remainders?
are the 'remainder' wavy cancels the Japanese equivalent to CTO cancels so far as collectability?
They are valued lower than "normal" postal cancels, but have also served a postal purpose. The stamps were used to pay the postal fees, but weren't stuck to the pieces of mail (the just got a "postage paid" mark), but for accounting purposes to separate sheets of paper, and were cancelled with these rollers. Often whole sheets of stamps were cancelled in this way. Not very useful if you just send a single letter, but convenient for mass mailings and the like.
they may also be cancelled as sheets independent of a cover, but they are often found on large manila envelopes
I received these stamps as franking on a package from Japan.
Tony..I guess you will be listing some new stamps from Japan ?
Bob, I mostly trade so I'm switching to colnect.
Much easier to list and not so time consuming.
exhibition here ...
http://www.stampedia.net/stamp/exhibition/12/en
Question to the Japan experts...
I see many stamps with this type of cancel...
is this a pen cancel ????
re: Japan cancels
This is a roller cancel.
As far as I know, a roller cancel represents legitimate postal use, as opposed to those wavy-line cancels, which, as I understand it, indicates a remainder cancel.
That said, I'm not as current on these things as I used to be. I can ask someone who would know better than I whether or not these more recent roller cancels are actually a type of remainder cancel.
re: Japan cancels
Thank you Dave
re: Japan cancels
Bob, I've gone on and asked in a specialty group I belong to. I'll post here if I learn any additional information about them.
re: Japan cancels
I got a reply back quickly.
Stamps with these roller cancels saw legitimate postal use.
re: Japan cancels
Thanks again...
re: Japan cancels
You bet!
I was glad to get that detail confirmed for myself as well.
re: Japan cancels
From a colleague of mine in the study group I mentioned, here's an example of that roller cancel applied to a group of stamps. It helps give an idea of what the cancel actually looks like.
(Sorry about flogging this topic to death.)
re: Japan cancels
Dave,
Thank you for that last post - I was trying to figure out what an entire cancel would look like!
re: Japan cancels
Please feel free to flog all you want... Learned a good lesson..
re: Japan cancels
This is my type of thread.
It is great to learn "stuff" that is not about rare, high value stamps you can never own, but about everyday matters which intrigue and stimulate.
I am a bit of a magpie and am interested it almost everything which can exercise my mind.My wife despairs at the apparently useless( to her !) information I accumulate.
Malcolm
re: Japan cancels
just confirming what's already been reported: roller cancel, common on most Japanese large packages. I don't recall seeing these roller cancels on covers from any other country
re: Japan cancels
David... I have seen some roller cancels on some Canadian covers..
re: Japan cancels
http://www.isjp.org/sg-fm-postmarks
re: Japan cancels
OK... how would you classify this one?! Does this suggest rollers also used as remainders?
re: Japan cancels
are the 'remainder' wavy cancels the Japanese equivalent to CTO cancels so far as collectability?
re: Japan cancels
They are valued lower than "normal" postal cancels, but have also served a postal purpose. The stamps were used to pay the postal fees, but weren't stuck to the pieces of mail (the just got a "postage paid" mark), but for accounting purposes to separate sheets of paper, and were cancelled with these rollers. Often whole sheets of stamps were cancelled in this way. Not very useful if you just send a single letter, but convenient for mass mailings and the like.
re: Japan cancels
they may also be cancelled as sheets independent of a cover, but they are often found on large manila envelopes
re: Japan cancels
I received these stamps as franking on a package from Japan.
re: Japan cancels
Tony..I guess you will be listing some new stamps from Japan ?
re: Japan cancels
Bob, I mostly trade so I'm switching to colnect.
Much easier to list and not so time consuming.
re: Japan cancels
exhibition here ...
http://www.stampedia.net/stamp/exhibition/12/en