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General Philatelic/Supplies, Literature & Software : Watermark Trays

 

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michael78651

01 Feb 2018
11:19:01am
The black, plastic watermark detector trays (the ones where you add watermark fluid and immerse the stamp in it) come in two types: flat bottom and ridged bottom. I have never used a rigged bottom tray. Does anyone see any advantage to using a ridged bottom tray compared to a flat bottom one?


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01 Feb 2018
11:21:31am
re: Watermark Trays

easier to get tongs under the stamp to retrieve it?

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01 Feb 2018
04:53:00pm
re: Watermark Trays

I use a plastic black ashtray...

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01 Feb 2018
05:58:12pm
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I use vintage black glass furniture coasters, you can still find these pretty cheap on eBay.
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michael78651

01 Feb 2018
08:03:09pm
re: Watermark Trays

"easier to get tongs under the stamp to retrieve it?"



I suppose so, but without the stamp lying on top of the ridges instead of lying flat on the bottom of the tray, would that not keep the watermark from appearing well?
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02 Feb 2018
04:33:13am
re: Watermark Trays

I use the ridged part to place stamps which have already been doused in fluid to 'dry' while the next stamp's watermark is being identified on the flat part of the tray.

On the other hand, (a) watermark fluid takes no time at all to dry, and (b) the ridged part actually slopes towards the flat part, which suggests a different purpose.

Though what, I cannot tell.

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02 Feb 2018
06:56:33am
re: Watermark Trays

Guthrum, does your tray have a flat and ridged area. I have a flat tray and a ribbed tray. I use less fluid with the flat tray.

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03 Feb 2018
01:28:06pm
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michael78651

03 Feb 2018
01:33:19pm
re: Watermark Trays

Mine is like the left half of yours.

I like the set-up with the drying ridges, and will look for one to buy.

The ridged tray that I saw only has ridges, no flat area. That makes no sense to me unless you also have a separate tray with a smooth bottom to do as this dual tray does.

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03 Feb 2018
02:36:03pm

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My watermark tray is a black ceramic ridged soap dish works fine for me.
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Pogopossum

03 Feb 2018
05:06:16pm
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Mine is a black ceramic (I assume) tray from HE Harris many years ago. Are there any concerns about using any kind of watermark fluid in anything other than ceramic? I use Ronsonol.

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04 Feb 2018
12:18:08pm
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Mine is exactly like the one Guthrum showed. After I see the watermark, I place the stamps on the ridged surface, and they dry quicker.

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04 Feb 2018
12:39:13pm

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Here is what I use, think it was a grocery package tray originally.
After determining watermarks I place the stamps on copy paper divided into columns headed by the possible watermarks. They appear to dry quickly with no adverse effects.Image Not Found
Yep, I know, cheapskate Englishman.

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04 Feb 2018
03:20:09pm
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Out of interest what effect does the fluid have on the gum?

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michael78651

04 Feb 2018
06:17:47pm
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I have never heard of or seen any deleterious effect on the gum caused by watermark fluid. If one lets the stamp soak in the fluid for a long period of time, I'm sure that the gum condition would become an issue, but watermark fluid evaporates very quickly.

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Tom in Exton, PA

09 Feb 2018
09:57:51am
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Folks, I’d be very careful about using anything but an official watermark tray. No doubt the manufacturer did testing and will guarantee no leaching of chemicals from the tray. With anything you just grab I wouldn’t be so confident. One never can be sure some invisible element isn’t reacting with the fluid and into your stamp.

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michael78651

01 Feb 2018
11:19:01am

The black, plastic watermark detector trays (the ones where you add watermark fluid and immerse the stamp in it) come in two types: flat bottom and ridged bottom. I have never used a rigged bottom tray. Does anyone see any advantage to using a ridged bottom tray compared to a flat bottom one?


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01 Feb 2018
11:21:31am

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01 Feb 2018
04:53:00pm

re: Watermark Trays

I use a plastic black ashtray...

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01 Feb 2018
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I use vintage black glass furniture coasters, you can still find these pretty cheap on eBay.
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michael78651

01 Feb 2018
08:03:09pm

re: Watermark Trays

"easier to get tongs under the stamp to retrieve it?"



I suppose so, but without the stamp lying on top of the ridges instead of lying flat on the bottom of the tray, would that not keep the watermark from appearing well?
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Guthrum

02 Feb 2018
04:33:13am

re: Watermark Trays

I use the ridged part to place stamps which have already been doused in fluid to 'dry' while the next stamp's watermark is being identified on the flat part of the tray.

On the other hand, (a) watermark fluid takes no time at all to dry, and (b) the ridged part actually slopes towards the flat part, which suggests a different purpose.

Though what, I cannot tell.

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02 Feb 2018
06:56:33am

re: Watermark Trays

Guthrum, does your tray have a flat and ridged area. I have a flat tray and a ribbed tray. I use less fluid with the flat tray.

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03 Feb 2018
01:28:06pm

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michael78651

03 Feb 2018
01:33:19pm

re: Watermark Trays

Mine is like the left half of yours.

I like the set-up with the drying ridges, and will look for one to buy.

The ridged tray that I saw only has ridges, no flat area. That makes no sense to me unless you also have a separate tray with a smooth bottom to do as this dual tray does.

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03 Feb 2018
02:36:03pm

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My watermark tray is a black ceramic ridged soap dish works fine for me.
Brian

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Pogopossum

03 Feb 2018
05:06:16pm

re: Watermark Trays

Mine is a black ceramic (I assume) tray from HE Harris many years ago. Are there any concerns about using any kind of watermark fluid in anything other than ceramic? I use Ronsonol.

Geoff

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ChrisW

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04 Feb 2018
12:18:08pm

re: Watermark Trays

Mine is exactly like the one Guthrum showed. After I see the watermark, I place the stamps on the ridged surface, and they dry quicker.

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04 Feb 2018
12:39:13pm

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Here is what I use, think it was a grocery package tray originally.
After determining watermarks I place the stamps on copy paper divided into columns headed by the possible watermarks. They appear to dry quickly with no adverse effects.Image Not Found
Yep, I know, cheapskate Englishman.

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04 Feb 2018
03:20:09pm

re: Watermark Trays

Out of interest what effect does the fluid have on the gum?

Regards


Richmond

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michael78651

04 Feb 2018
06:17:47pm

re: Watermark Trays

I have never heard of or seen any deleterious effect on the gum caused by watermark fluid. If one lets the stamp soak in the fluid for a long period of time, I'm sure that the gum condition would become an issue, but watermark fluid evaporates very quickly.

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Tom in Exton, PA
09 Feb 2018
09:57:51am

re: Watermark Trays

Folks, I’d be very careful about using anything but an official watermark tray. No doubt the manufacturer did testing and will guarantee no leaching of chemicals from the tray. With anything you just grab I wouldn’t be so confident. One never can be sure some invisible element isn’t reacting with the fluid and into your stamp.

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