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RiTz21
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10 Jan 2018
07:47:11pm
Greetings!

My 10 yrs old daughter started collecting Canadian stamps last month, using PDF pages I printed for her (I discussed this on another forum, before I learned about the existence of this forum).

My own collection is quite modest and I stopped collecting in 1996... hence I have (practically) no stamps after 96.

My question is: Do you have any recommendation on how she could get recent stamps? I am aware that I could spend $$ to buy at a stamp store, but the is not a good options for my crappy finances.

Thank you for your time!
RiTz21

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doomboy
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10 Jan 2018
07:58:19pm
re: Advice request: Getting stamps for a 10 yrs old.

One thing she could do is go to her school secretary and ask if they could keep any envelopes with stamps on them, or just have them keep the stamps. I've found that school staff is usually quite accommodating. Of course, it depends on how friendly they are ... Happy

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10 Jan 2018
10:31:32pm
re: Advice request: Getting stamps for a 10 yrs old.

Keep an eye on the approvals here. Some sellers have sold recent Canadian in the past. Also, we have sellers who will closeout their approval books for just pennies. I recently bought a bunch of such stamps for my two young grandsons. The stamps will go along with their new beginner stamp albums that they received for Christmas.

You can keep an easier eye on the approval books by watching the classified ads at the bottom of the Discussion Board.

Also, many sellers sell country lots in the auctions. Check them out. When you go to the auctions, you can select "Canada" as a country. You will see all the Canadian stamps in the auction for those sellers who used this identification for their auction lots.

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10 Jan 2018
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re: Advice request: Getting stamps for a 10 yrs old.

If you are in a town area maybe use Google to find a local stamp club, many allow junior members without charge and have starter packages for free or very modest cost.
Animal welfare groups often have donations of stamps, as do charity shops, asking around and also of local church groups may bear fruit.
Your local post office may, if asked, allow you to put in a box to have donated stamps from other customers.
Relatives and friends may also have a lot of old envelopes with the stamps still attached, it is amazing what we accumulate over time.
Even a notice on your local community notice board or Facebook page can bring in stamps.
Let your thoughts seek out other avenues, local businesses etc and if all else fails post your full address (or a contact address) on the members page and no doubt stamps will appear in your postbox as if by magic.
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10 Jan 2018
10:57:51pm
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Not sure where you are in Quebec but here are details of a couple of clubs.

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Boucherville: Association des Numismates et des Philatélistes de Boucherville Inc.
Usual day and time of meeting: 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. (www.ANPB.net for the day)
Address of usual meeting place: 553 rue Saint-Charles or 955 boulevard De Montarville, Boucherville, QC, .
For further information contact: Marc Boulard, President, 450-655-4433, Case postale 111, Boucherville, QC, J4B 5E6
Email: president@anpb.nethttp://www.csdaonline.com/members/membersearch.ph
Website: http://www.ANPB.net

Pointe-Claire: Lakeshore Stamp Club Inc.
Usual day and time of meeting: 2nd, 3rd and 4th Thursday of each month
Address of usual meeting place: 233 Ste-Claire Avenue - St. John the Baptist Church, Pointe-Claire, QC, .
For further information contact: Chuck Colomb, President, 514-457-9020, QC
Email: chuckcolomb@videotron.ca

Here is a link to Quebec stamp dealers, check the individual websites for local clubs and/or freebies.http://www.csdaonline.com/members/

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pedroguy
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10 Jan 2018
11:55:58pm
re: Advice request: Getting stamps for a 10 yrs old.

Hello and Welcome, You're in the right placeHappy

Send me a PM I've got some that nobody seems to want or perhaps EVERYBODY already hasSad

I'll send them for her to add to her collection at no costBig Grin


Regards.........Bill

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11 Jan 2018
06:14:35am
re: Advice request: Getting stamps for a 10 yrs old.

I would offer the same advice that you got in the other forum. Be careful about allowing a young person to communicate online with others unless you’re are supervising them closely. (It appears that you are doing this and that is great.) Also be aware that online scams do occur in stamp forums. It is typically best to join a community for a few weeks and get to know everyone before asking for donations. This allows everyone to get to know each other and serves as a form of vetting. If this does not occur, it can attract additional scammers to a forum community.
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11 Jan 2018
07:22:33am
re: Advice request: Getting stamps for a 10 yrs old.

All good advice!

I was recently at a local stamp show (only the 2nd time I've done so in 50+ years of collecting!).

Anyway, there was a guy in the corner with several tables piled high with cast-off albums for show-goers to pick through at 10 cents a stamp. This was my 2nd time at this show, because the prior year at the same show, I spent about 3 hours paging through albums, looking for treasures and thoroughly enjoyed the time spent. This year, I picked out about 10 full pages, about a hundred stamps total, and he charged me...$15!!!

A neat aspect of this opportunity is it teaches one that there is reward for diligent mining!

And, it's very enjoyable (to me, at least) to walk around and drool over all the dealers' treasures, most priced way, WAY out of my range, but fun to look at anyway.

Admission was free.

One more quick anecdote. In a former job, I was across the hall from the State Bureau of Animal Industry. Many days, about 10 minutes before closing time, I would go over and dive the wastebasket near their mailboxes. This office received animal health certificates for animal importations from other states by mail, and it didn't take me long to accumulate a nearly complete collection of state departments of agriculture cachets, all postally used, of course, and all carefully opened with a knife!
Pretty neat collection!

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11 Jan 2018
08:31:27am

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re: Advice request: Getting stamps for a 10 yrs old.

Richard, Pigdoc gave me a great idea. If you can get your daughter to local shows, you can teach her some new skills. If you find a dealer who has old albums at 10 cents a stamp, or cheap stamp boxes to go through, you can start her out with a ten dollar bill (or other amount you decide) and tell her she has to make that money last the day, and get the maximum value in stamps for her collection out of it. That can teach her about stamps, but also some consumer skills.

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11 Jan 2018
12:06:57pm
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My local telephone company saves all the envelopes they receive for me. It amounts to over 100 stamps a month. Most are common stuff, but about 10% are commemoratives. Maybe you would have a local business who would help you out.

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11 Jan 2018
12:13:24pm
re: Advice request: Getting stamps for a 10 yrs old.

Many of us "world" collectors have areas we do not collect, but we nontheless accumulate stamps.. because we never toss out a stamp. In my case, I nonlonger collect Canada past 2000 and thanks to buying from our Canadian friends, I have many many recent Canadien stamps cut from envelopes,still on paper, or lovely envelopes that are worth preserving. (Roy's shipping envelopes are gems, by the way)! I will gladly part with them with neophytes new collectors. Email me (privately) a contact address and I can mail an envelope of goodies. For young collectors, having stamp pen pals was the best approach for me, if you like foreign stamp... or even for collecting from your own country. I used to find them as a kid from classified ads in a few magazines for kids... but I ignore if this still exists today. A free young collector want ad site for connecting collectors (as part of a club or stamp association) could be a real handy way to encourage young collectors! And one could build a security layer to shield the young from their pen pals! Could Stamporama do this? Does any one know of such a ressource (APS)? ( note. Have no kids so I am clueless)
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11 Jan 2018
12:46:45pm
re: Advice request: Getting stamps for a 10 yrs old.

Hi rrr,
Developing an online forum or website which supports young people interacting with each other carries with it high legal and insurance costs. While we may not like to think about the seedy underbelly of the internet, it is alive and well. Over on the SCF, we had this same debate and there were some who felt I was being too cautious. But the fact are grim, just in the last few months Forbes ran an article where they posed a young girl and used an popular online social media website. Within the first hour, "the girl" had received 10 private messages, all from men.

There are plenty of ‘loose screws’ online and owning a website which supports and/or encourages young people to connect is very risky and expensive due to this issue. When I looked into supporting young people on Stamp Smarter I found 5 figure annual insurance costs. My lawyer was clear, ‘you would be nuts, this is all risk and little upside’. Of course he did not have the same desire to help the hobby but no doubt that the risk is very high that someone will get hurt and sued.
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RiTz21
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11 Jan 2018
10:30:50pm
re: Advice request: Getting stamps for a 10 yrs old.

Holy cows...! So many replies!
I did not receive any email notifications of replies to this thread... So I didn't think of checking earlier! (I am not familiar with this forum format... I'm more of a phpbb guy :P )
Still getting my bearings here... hehe

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"doomboy:
One thing she could do is go to her school secretary and ask if they could keep any envelopes with stamps on them, or just have them keep the stamps. I've found that school staff is usually quite accommodating. Of course, it depends on how friendly they are ..."


Geez, that's a GREAT idea!! I'll talk to her about this tomorrow - I'll go see the school
secretary at the end of the day and see if that 'bites' - THANKS!! (I'll let you know how it went!)

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"michael78651:
Keep an eye on the approvals here. Some sellers have sold recent Canadian in the past. Also, we have sellers who will closeout their approval books for just pennies. I recently bought a bunch of such stamps for my two young grandsons. The stamps will go along with their new beginner stamp albums that they received for Christmas.

You can keep an easier eye on the approval books by watching the classified ads at the bottom of the Discussion Board.

Also, many sellers sell country lots in the auctions. Check them out. When you go to the auctions, you can select "Canada" as a country. You will see all the Canadian stamps in the auction for those sellers who used this identification for their auction lots."



I am not sure what you mean by 'Keep an eye on the approvals here' ... I see that there is some kind of auction/selling going on here... I'll have to dig in deeper to see what this is and how it works.

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"sheepshanks:
If you are in a town area maybe use Google to find a local stamp club, many allow junior members without charge and have starter packages for free or very modest cost.
Animal welfare groups often have donations of stamps, as do charity shops, asking around and also of local church groups may bear fruit.
Your local post office may, if asked, allow you to put in a box to have donated stamps from other customers.
Relatives and friends may also have a lot of old envelopes with the stamps still attached, it is amazing what we accumulate over time.
Even a notice on your local community notice board or Facebook page can bring in stamps.
Let your thoughts seek out other avenues, local businesses etc and if all else fails post your full address (or a contact address) on the members page and no doubt stamps will appear in your postbox as if by magic. Vic"



I did a quick search for stamp clubs in my area, but didn't find any close by. I did start to ask friends and family to keep an eye out for stamps... One of my friends says he had just 'thrown out' an envelope of stamps a few days before I asked this...! ARGGG I guess that was a case of *very* bad timing... HEHE can't be helped though. At least, he know now and has started keeping them for my daughter. I actually went though my own envelopes and you're right! I found a couple of stamps on these! lol *checking settings* seems my address was not shared... now it will be visible. Thanks for the tip!! I'll also keep in mind the other ideas you propose!

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"pedroguy:
Hello and Welcome, You're in the right placeHappy
Send me a PM I've got some that nobody seems to want or perhaps EVERYBODY already has. I'll send them for her to add to her collection at no cost"

Thanks!! I shared my coordinates in the settings.. should be visible if you wish to view it. Thanks!! P.S. The link in your signature gives an error...

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"51Studebaker:
I would offer the same advice that you got in the other forum. Be careful about allowing a young person to communicate online with others unless you’re are supervising them closely. (It appears that you are doing this and that is great.) Also be aware that online scams do occur in stamp forums. It is typically best to join a community for a few weeks and get to know everyone before asking for donations. This allows everyone to get to know each other and serves as a form of vetting. If this does not occur, it can attract additional scammers to a forum community. Don "

Yep - I'll process all communications on her behalf. Sound thing to do in the 21dst century. Thanks for the heads up!


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Anyway, there was a guy in the corner with several tables piled high with cast-off albums for show-goers to pick through at 10 cents a stamp. This was my 2nd time at this show, because the prior year at the same show, I spent about 3 hours paging through albums, looking for treasures and thoroughly enjoyed the time spent. This year, I picked out about 10 full pages, about a hundred stamps total, and he charged me...$15!!!"

Certainly sounds like an excellent haul!!

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Richard, Pigdoc gave me a great idea. If you can get your daughter to local shows, you can teach her some new skills. If you find a dealer who has old albums at 10 cents a stamp, or cheap stamp boxes to go through, you can start her out with a ten dollar bill (or other amount you decide) and tell her she has to make that money last the day, and get the maximum value in stamps for her collection out of it. That can teach her about stamps, but also some consumer skills."

I think that would be quite fun! I need to see if anything like this can be done in my area!

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My local telephone company saves all the envelopes they receive for me. It amounts to over 100 stamps a month. Most are common stuff, but about 10% are commemorative. Maybe you would have a local business who would help you out."

Hmmm how did you approach them to do this exactly!? I'm curious!



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"rrraphy:
Many of us "world" collectors have areas we do not collect, but we nonetheless accumulate stamps.. because we never toss out a stamp. In my case, I non-longer collect Canada past 2000 and thanks to buying from our Canadian friends, I have many many recent Canadian stamps cut from envelopes,still on paper, or lovely envelopes that are worth preserving. (Roy's shipping envelopes are gems, by the way)! I will gladly part with them with neophytes new collectors. Email me (privately) a contact address and I can mail an envelope of goodies. For young collectors, having stamp pen pals was the best approach for me, if you like foreign stamp... or even for collecting from your own country. I used to find them as a kid from classified ads in a few magazines for kids... but I ignore if this still exists today. A free young collector want ad site for connecting collectors (as part of a club or stamp association) could be a real handy way to encourage young collectors! And one could build a security layer to shield the young from their pen pals! Could Stamporama do this? Does any one know of such a resource (APS)? ( note. Have no kids so I am clueless)"

I set my address public, should you wish to send something to Kira - and we actually did soak some stamps from envelopes in water - she liked getting them off the envelopes hehehe (MORE than I for sure! LOL).

As for the Pen Pal, I also think it would be GREAT if she could have another kids to exchange with... I never located any resources to allow this. AND I also recall (35+ years ago) that we could find pen-pals through magazines. In any case, I'm also {presently} clueless about this aspect... BUT I would suggest that any 'contact' between the correspondents be through MAIL (and not online or email!!) - that would {hopefully} reduce any undesirables from the equation.

THANK you all for taking the time to reply!!

RiTz21

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12 Jan 2018
03:04:35pm
re: Advice request: Getting stamps for a 10 yrs old.

RiTz21- As to how I got my phone company to save the envelopes for me: I just asked them. For a few years, they gave me the entire envelopes, but now they tear them in half, and I get the part with the stamps.

They were curious as to why I wanted the stamps and what I was doing with them. Spent a little time explaining stamp collecting, sharing with local children through "free boxes" at our local stamp show, the Holocaust Stamp Project, and how difficult it is to find commemorative stamps anymore. I take them a big bag of Christmas chocolates every year as a thank you.

It may help that I live in a rural area near a tiny town. Everyone knows their neighbors.....

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12 Jan 2018
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My model car club wanted to pass on the hobby to the next generation and tried to get a youth event going. We approached schools and scouting organizations, none of which were interested in working with us. I guess it's the times!

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One thing she could do is go to her school secretary and ask if they could keep any envelopes with stamps on them, or just have them keep the stamps. I've found that school staff is usually quite accommodating."


Just to let you know!
Yesterday {Friday} after school, we went to see the secretary to ask her if she could hold onto stamps for my daughter. She agreed! She did mention that they did not receive many letters with stamps, as they get more 'commercial' correspondence. But hey, at least she will be on the lookout for them!

She did mention something interesting though: Some of the classes send "voyaging envelops" all over the place and we should ask the Teachers about the stamps on the returning letters! (these envelops contain a notebook written by the kids, and sent on a journey in the world; they basically talk a bit about themselves, and ask the recipients to talk about themselves - and to 'chain' {i.e. send to someone else} the included notebook to one of their friends. Finally, they ask that these small notebooks be returned to the school in April, so that the children can read about all the people that was in the 'chain'.

So basically, the teacher should receive these at some point! {at least, those that made it back to school}. I am not sure from *where* these will be from, but it does not hurt to ask the Teachers if they can keep the stamps! Might be some surprises there...

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RiTz21- As to how I got my phone company to save the envelopes for me: I just asked them.... {snip} It may help that I live in a rural area near a tiny town. Everyone knows their neighbors....."

Ah I see - yeah the rural area would made this a bit easier then in a big city, where we don't really know anyone... HEHEH

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14 Jan 2018
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RiTz21 - it never hurts to ask. One member of our stamp club does live in a big city. She asked someone at the electric company (I don't know the details), and they agreed to save their billing envelopes. She can have all the stamps she wants but does have to go in to the company and cut them off the envelopes in the company office.

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14 Jan 2018
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You have a branch of EDC at 4805 Lapinière
Suite 4300
City of Brossard QC J4Z 0G2

They probably get correspondence from Canada and worldwide and might be worth a visit to ask receptionist if they could save mail stamps for you.
Your local library would be worth contacting for putting a collection box and maybe they also get postal deliveries of books on interloan.
I appreciate that it can be a bit awkward making the first move but most folks are pleased to help especially if you focus on the recycling aspect.
Maybe all the folks on your Christmas card list could save stamps and send them back once a year.


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malcolm197
21 Jan 2018
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re: Advice request: Getting stamps for a 10 yrs old.

If you have any contacts with Scouts Canada or the Girl Guides you can ask there.

Most scout associations have ways of putting their members in touch with others, and you may be able to ride "piggy back" - and it is safe. In the UK and no doubt in Canada, they are very professional at keeping undesirables at bay. I worked professionally for the Scout Association before child protection had a high profile - and we were good at it then-and certainly more aware than the average parent !

Also try to contact stamp clubs via the internet and see if you can set up a link.For the obvious child protection issues they may not let her talk direct with their kids, but an adult intermediary at each end should take care of that.

Most adult collectors are keen to see youngsters in the hobby, and will go out of their way to assist.

While the number of "lowlife" is small they are dedicated in finding methods to peddle their nastiness. Don't get paranoid, but it is wise to take simple precautions....and snail mail is "safer" than the internet or the telephone...infinitely.

Malcolm

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