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There are several varieties of these stamps. There are 2 sets ( different colours) together with shades and perforation differences.
Check Stanley Gibbons specialised part 19 Middle East.Listed at the beginning of Israel section ( not political just geographical !! )
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These are very common stamps and can easily be found in the UK
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07:57:46am
The stamps you pictured are from the Palestine Mandate which was administered by Great Britain after World War I until the emergence of the state of Israel.
There are four different papers that were used to produce these stamps, and numerous shade varieties.
If you want to see a detailed listing with images showing how to sort these stamps, please visit my website shown below and take the link to see the web pages illustrating various sets. This will take you to an index page where you will find the Palestine Mandate link.
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Tom: very interesting web site and a wealth of information. I don't formally collect varieties of the Pictorial Palestine stamps, but I am fascinated by them to the point that I have put together my own page of varieties and cancellations, when I have nothing better to do...just for fun.
As mentioned, they are quite readily available.
So I went looking for any matches with the empty spots you indicate as needing, and I went back to my bags full of duplicates, ignored and hardly visited in years!
This lead me to the discovery of ribbed paper where the ribbing (what is left of it as I primarily work with used stamps) seem to be both vertical and horizontal? Cannot be? But what is left seems to match this description.
And I found something that seems to match your : ""5m Yellow-Orange Vertically Ribbed Thick Paper Perf 13.5 x 14.5 SG 93 - CW 4 - ST 67, but I cannot identify the ribbing as it seems both vertical and horizontal, and the color yellow orange, is only defined within a continuum of color variations, it seems..but I am not sure. (I show a scan for color...but it is not accurate, and the ribbing remnant is impossible to show on a scan of the back side)
Great reference material by the way, Tom. I will make a copy of your description for my album, but I cannot see myself going through the rigorous work that you have done...and I am impressed. I have used the David Dorfman Specialized catalog (published by Rosen Enterprises), but it seemingly rushes through the details for pictorial and seem to focus more on the earlier plate variations of the EEF series and the o/p variations. I myself find the search for rare perforation variations, and cancellations much more interesting.
So what do you think? Could my 4th stamp from the right a 5m yellow orange?
rrr...
scan color seems to be incorrect for the yellows
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Thanks for posting the scan of your 5m issues. There is a good possibility that the stamp you mentioned is the missing image. If you have time, could you scan it by itself against black paper. I use 600 dpi as the resolution and color photo as the setting on my scanner.
I will add you to the site contributors list if you want.
Regarding the ribbing, it is hard to show it from a scan, but most ribbing will be vertical like the image above. The horizontal ribbing is a lot more scarce. Some of the vertical ribbing looks almost like small oval shapes. The best way to tell is to isolate a value that has no horizontal ribbing like the 50m and then find one with ribbing. It will be vertical because that is the only option.
It appears you have a lot of these based on your page, and you are right they are really cheap when you buy them used. There are a number of flaws listed in the Bale catalog. You can pick one up on ebay for a small investment and see if you have any of the flaws.
I have other stamps displayed on other web pages if you are interested in British Colonies. Use the index page that is linked from my home page to find them.
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Thanks Tom, and thanks for the offer, but apart from early Middle East related British stamps I don't collect the rest of the British colonies. I do specialize in the Middle east area though.
The yellow colored 5m seems to be the rarest of the color variations. I only have a few and two were on that sheet of the 5m variations. The others are quite plentiful in my duplicates, and the 5m is the most common one of all. If you want, I can mail you a few choice specimens of the one you are missing (if I have it correctly identified, and I will try minor color variations, but I don't guarantee my accuracy). If it is the right one, you are welcome to keep it. I will try to get stamps with better ribbing showing, but on used stamps it is a bit of a hit and miss.
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Thanks for the offer. I am sorry for the delay, but I just now noticed your reply. I guess I need to figure out when someone responds to my posts. If it is convenient, I would gladly pay for one of the 5m stamps that you mentioned. You can send me an email from my website. Use the link below. Then I can arrange for payment to be sent to you.
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re: Palestine
There are several varieties of these stamps. There are 2 sets ( different colours) together with shades and perforation differences.
Check Stanley Gibbons specialised part 19 Middle East.Listed at the beginning of Israel section ( not political just geographical !! )
Malcolm
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These are very common stamps and can easily be found in the UK
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01 Jul 2018
07:57:46am
re: Palestine
The stamps you pictured are from the Palestine Mandate which was administered by Great Britain after World War I until the emergence of the state of Israel.
There are four different papers that were used to produce these stamps, and numerous shade varieties.
If you want to see a detailed listing with images showing how to sort these stamps, please visit my website shown below and take the link to see the web pages illustrating various sets. This will take you to an index page where you will find the Palestine Mandate link.
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Tom: very interesting web site and a wealth of information. I don't formally collect varieties of the Pictorial Palestine stamps, but I am fascinated by them to the point that I have put together my own page of varieties and cancellations, when I have nothing better to do...just for fun.
As mentioned, they are quite readily available.
So I went looking for any matches with the empty spots you indicate as needing, and I went back to my bags full of duplicates, ignored and hardly visited in years!
This lead me to the discovery of ribbed paper where the ribbing (what is left of it as I primarily work with used stamps) seem to be both vertical and horizontal? Cannot be? But what is left seems to match this description.
And I found something that seems to match your : ""5m Yellow-Orange Vertically Ribbed Thick Paper Perf 13.5 x 14.5 SG 93 - CW 4 - ST 67, but I cannot identify the ribbing as it seems both vertical and horizontal, and the color yellow orange, is only defined within a continuum of color variations, it seems..but I am not sure. (I show a scan for color...but it is not accurate, and the ribbing remnant is impossible to show on a scan of the back side)
Great reference material by the way, Tom. I will make a copy of your description for my album, but I cannot see myself going through the rigorous work that you have done...and I am impressed. I have used the David Dorfman Specialized catalog (published by Rosen Enterprises), but it seemingly rushes through the details for pictorial and seem to focus more on the earlier plate variations of the EEF series and the o/p variations. I myself find the search for rare perforation variations, and cancellations much more interesting.
So what do you think? Could my 4th stamp from the right a 5m yellow orange?
rrr...
scan color seems to be incorrect for the yellows
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02 Jul 2018
08:27:08am
re: Palestine
Thanks for posting the scan of your 5m issues. There is a good possibility that the stamp you mentioned is the missing image. If you have time, could you scan it by itself against black paper. I use 600 dpi as the resolution and color photo as the setting on my scanner.
I will add you to the site contributors list if you want.
Regarding the ribbing, it is hard to show it from a scan, but most ribbing will be vertical like the image above. The horizontal ribbing is a lot more scarce. Some of the vertical ribbing looks almost like small oval shapes. The best way to tell is to isolate a value that has no horizontal ribbing like the 50m and then find one with ribbing. It will be vertical because that is the only option.
It appears you have a lot of these based on your page, and you are right they are really cheap when you buy them used. There are a number of flaws listed in the Bale catalog. You can pick one up on ebay for a small investment and see if you have any of the flaws.
I have other stamps displayed on other web pages if you are interested in British Colonies. Use the index page that is linked from my home page to find them.
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re: Palestine
Thanks Tom, and thanks for the offer, but apart from early Middle East related British stamps I don't collect the rest of the British colonies. I do specialize in the Middle east area though.
The yellow colored 5m seems to be the rarest of the color variations. I only have a few and two were on that sheet of the 5m variations. The others are quite plentiful in my duplicates, and the 5m is the most common one of all. If you want, I can mail you a few choice specimens of the one you are missing (if I have it correctly identified, and I will try minor color variations, but I don't guarantee my accuracy). If it is the right one, you are welcome to keep it. I will try to get stamps with better ribbing showing, but on used stamps it is a bit of a hit and miss.
Rrr...
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Collecting King George VI from all countries, and King Edward VII and King George V from the West Indies.
29 Dec 2018
10:23:49am
re: Palestine
Thanks for the offer. I am sorry for the delay, but I just now noticed your reply. I guess I need to figure out when someone responds to my posts. If it is convenient, I would gladly pay for one of the 5m stamps that you mentioned. You can send me an email from my website. Use the link below. Then I can arrange for payment to be sent to you.
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