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General Philatelic/Supplies, Literature & Software : Bates Numbering to Steiner

 

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02 Dec 2017
10:55:11pm
I have just found Bates Numbering and have been applying this to my Lighthouse /Steiner album pages - Here I have scanned, reduced to 75% and snipped.

Excuse the dead water beetle which I failed to clean from my scanner before completing this scan. They are pretty bad this time of year and 100's get through the insect screens!

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03 Dec 2017
12:03:28am

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re: Bates Numbering to Steiner

ok, what is Bates numbering? first I've heard of it. is this German-specific?

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03 Dec 2017
12:27:23am
re: Bates Numbering to Steiner

No, its a PDF numbering system which enables custom numbering. It only seems to be available in non freeware Adobe. I do the numbering of my files at work as I only have freeware Adobe on my home computer.

The prefixes I use are from ISO 3166 for the country codes - the year comes from the last 3 digits of the Steiner file year and then I use the auto page numbering (3 digit) and of course making sure I delete the copyright page if it exists.

If a country no longer exists and is not in ISO 3166 I customise the country prefix as was the case for many of the Vietnam files.

I will use the numbering system for my scans when I get around to opening up a web page.

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03 Dec 2017
09:33:31am
re: Bates Numbering to Steiner

I've seen Bates Numbering only in legal documents - never thought about applying that to album pages.

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04 Dec 2017
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so I understand, Bates is for the users' convenience and NOT for a commonly understood system, right?

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04 Dec 2017
09:13:15am
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"so I understand, Bates is for the users' convenience and NOT for a commonly understood system, right?
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Right - Basically, it's to identify each page of a collection of documents with a unique ID number, starting with 1 and going on indefinitely. Bates was the inventor of a sequential number stamping gadget years ago. During discovery phase of a court case, the docs handed back and forth between the parties are all Bates numbered. That's the only area I'd seen Bates numbers used. That way, the opposing lawyers could simply refer to a Bates number in their negotiations instead of having to spell out the complete (and possibly confusing) ID of a page in a pile of documents.

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04 Dec 2017
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thanks Francis.... that helps

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RICHMOND FC PREMIERS 2017, 2019, 2020
02 Dec 2017
10:55:11pm

I have just found Bates Numbering and have been applying this to my Lighthouse /Steiner album pages - Here I have scanned, reduced to 75% and snipped.

Excuse the dead water beetle which I failed to clean from my scanner before completing this scan. They are pretty bad this time of year and 100's get through the insect screens!

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03 Dec 2017
12:03:28am

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re: Bates Numbering to Steiner

ok, what is Bates numbering? first I've heard of it. is this German-specific?

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RICHMOND FC PREMIERS 2017, 2019, 2020
03 Dec 2017
12:27:23am

re: Bates Numbering to Steiner

No, its a PDF numbering system which enables custom numbering. It only seems to be available in non freeware Adobe. I do the numbering of my files at work as I only have freeware Adobe on my home computer.

The prefixes I use are from ISO 3166 for the country codes - the year comes from the last 3 digits of the Steiner file year and then I use the auto page numbering (3 digit) and of course making sure I delete the copyright page if it exists.

If a country no longer exists and is not in ISO 3166 I customise the country prefix as was the case for many of the Vietnam files.

I will use the numbering system for my scans when I get around to opening up a web page.

Regards


Richmond

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dollhaus

03 Dec 2017
09:33:31am

re: Bates Numbering to Steiner

I've seen Bates Numbering only in legal documents - never thought about applying that to album pages.

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Editor, Seal News; contributor, JuicyHeads
04 Dec 2017
08:32:22am

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re: Bates Numbering to Steiner

so I understand, Bates is for the users' convenience and NOT for a commonly understood system, right?

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"Save the USPS, buy stamps; save the hobby, use commemoratives"

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dollhaus

04 Dec 2017
09:13:15am

re: Bates Numbering to Steiner

"so I understand, Bates is for the users' convenience and NOT for a commonly understood system, right?
"



Right - Basically, it's to identify each page of a collection of documents with a unique ID number, starting with 1 and going on indefinitely. Bates was the inventor of a sequential number stamping gadget years ago. During discovery phase of a court case, the docs handed back and forth between the parties are all Bates numbered. That's the only area I'd seen Bates numbers used. That way, the opposing lawyers could simply refer to a Bates number in their negotiations instead of having to spell out the complete (and possibly confusing) ID of a page in a pile of documents.

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04 Dec 2017
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re: Bates Numbering to Steiner

thanks Francis.... that helps

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"Save the USPS, buy stamps; save the hobby, use commemoratives"

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